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Old 12-31-2012, 08:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Welcome back Vic,
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I can donate one for a good cause.
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Tell him to get a Mac or iPad
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Tell him to get a Mac or iPad
He said he needed a computer so...

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The MacOS is better suited to people who are not computer experts.
less chance of viruses [Although they do exist] due to the fact that it runs on unix.
and with Windows 8, it's less of a transition for someone getting a new computer.
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I started with this

Apple Lisa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So I was there at the beginning.

I enjoy the freedom to fail that Intel / Windows boxes afford.

The best thing about Unix is it is nearly incomprehensible to most normal humans which is why most people give up and leave it alone.


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Apple deliberately sought to minimize the user's conceptual awareness of the operating system: Tasks which required more operating system knowledge on other systems would be accomplished by intuitive mouse gestures and simple graphic controls on a Macintosh, making the system more user-friendly and easily mastered. This would differentiate it from then current systems such as MS-DOS which were more technically challenging to operate.

The core of the system software was held in ROM, with updates provided free of charge by Apple dealers (on floppy disk). The user's involvement in an upgrade of the operating system was also minimized to running an installer, or simply replacing system files, the simplicity of which again differentiated the product from others.


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And for non computer experts, that is why I recommend the MacOS.

I run my work network which is 100% windows based for both the PC and Servers. It's over 1000 computers in the US, Europe and Asia. We keep it secure and reliable because we know how to. But unfortunately we end up fixing and de-virus-ing at least 1 employee [Non Work] computer a week because the average person doesn't know how to keep windows secure. We also have to tell people the bad news that their data because not many people seem to know how to backup a windows based PC.

I highly doubt that phone call is real.

I personally think Windows 7 and Server2008 are excellent products. I also really like Exchange, MS SQL and Sharepoint. So I am far from being against Microsoft.

This is what people can look forward to with Windows 8.
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The MacOS is better suited to people who are not computer experts.
less chance of viruses [Although they do exist] due to the fact that it runs on unix.
and with Windows 8, it's less of a transition for someone getting a new computer.
Option 3:
Find last year's model with Windows 7. Will be much easier than switching over to Macs or Windows 8.

People who are "in to" computers and gadgets will put the effort to switch to Mac.

people who just want to surf, write, and email. Will be more frustrated in learning something completely new.

(Ahnuld is a Microsoft .Net developer by day, iMac and iPad user by night who was frustrated at times learning the "mac" way, and knows it would be torturous to tell a basic user who took years to navigate Windows, to then relearn everything in Mac)

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Unfortunately, finding a PC with Win7 is getting difficult. MS forces vars to put the latest version. Dell is one of the few vendors that offers the older OS for a longer period of time.

In my experience, I have seen people transition easier to MacOS than Windows7 from XP which I do find odd.
But amazingly enough, a lot of people still don't know how to use the start button. If their files and app shortcuts are not on the desktop, they are lost.

One example was an 82 year old man.
He used to call for support at least twice a week, and had major virus issues at least 3 times a year, even with the proper protection in place.
Switched to Leopard and he upgraded to Snow Leopard on his own.
Average call for support is now about once a quarter and most of these are actually web based questions that are independant of OS.
This person is my father. If he can do it, anyone can.
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I just went to Windows 8 (from 7) and find it much faster - especially startup. Hate the "metro" interface, but you just need to download Classic shell freeware (Welcome to Classic Shell ) and install it to get the StartMenu button and operation back. It defaults to setting the parameters to boot straight into the desktop (not Metro) and then the UI works identically to Win7.

These are my own install tips for ClassicShell if anyone is interested (YMMV)... Download and install ClassicShellSetup, only enable 'Start Menu' on install.

Then, once installed, setup/change the Start Menu defaults as follows:
  • Right-click Start button & select Settings
  • First choose Start Menu Style = Windows Vista/7
  • Click "All Settings" at bottom
  • Windows 8 Settings tab: Check 'Skip Metro', and disable 'Start screen'
  • Special Items tab:
    > Computer -> Display as menu
    > Favorites & User Files & User Documents & User Pictures -> Don't Display
    > Control Panel -> Display as menu
    > UNcheck 'Show Search...'
    > UNcheck 'Show Help...'
    > Set 'Max recent programs' to -10
    > UNcheck 'Show recent programs on top'
    > Shortcuts for recent programs -> Normal shortcuts
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Thank You for helping me confirm my point.

I am not seeing an average computer user being able to do[Let alone know about] that without help.
[And TS, please don't be humble, we all know you are seriously above average in IQ so you can't claim you are an average user]

FYI - There is some controversy on the man behind metro
Was Sinofsky fired for Microsoft's sins? | ZDNet


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[And TS, please don't be humble, we all know you are seriously above average in IQ so you can't claim you are an average user]
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