Sky got stolen!!!

DeepBlueGXP · 05-29-2008, 02:37 PM

What a sweet looking car but, Breckland Technology appears to have ripped off Saturn Sky/Opel GT. Doesn't the fenders, humps, doors, mirrors, waterfall, and the covertible top look familiar? Even radio placement.

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Breckland Technology Limited - Constructors of specialist low volume vehicles

**cfjara** · 05-29-2008, 02:42 PM

The Kappa platform is here to stay. I see it as a compliment to the solid design. I wouldn't be surprise if more 3rd parties start picking this up as basis for their custom cars.

DeepBlueGXP · 05-29-2008, 03:10 PM

I agree, but they should comment on where the technology came from, it's not as if they engineered it themselves.

OPEL-GT · 05-29-2008, 03:21 PM

here is a quote from topspeed.com

"Don’t you think the car has a familiar look? Yes, you are right, it does! The car is based on the Opel GT to which the company adds a V8 engine. With this new roadster, Breckland Technology will enter the UK roadster market dominated by Marcos and TVR."

the GT is not available in Britain.. so guess this fills the gap in the market

Page10: roadster - Top Speed

futher information can be found here :

The Beira | Car Articles

RedSkyMan · 05-29-2008, 03:37 PM

I'd say they just followed the Mallett play book.

If something works, copy it.

mbeardsley · 05-29-2008, 04:29 PM

Wow, from the title of this thread, I thought someon had actually gotten their car stolen!

Though I just realized that I haven't heard of anyone getting their Sky stolen at all. I guess the theives figure the car stands out too much (and they probably don't like OnStar looking over their shoulder either).

rufusmacblorf · 05-29-2008, 05:23 PM

I sold my kit car just before I got my Sky. I built a Countach replica on a Fiero foundation. I installed a Chevy 350 to make it go. It was a lot of fun, but I wanted a real car, so I bought the Sky. I think the Kappa platform would be a wonderful foundation for kit cars. With a V8, the Kappa's performance is much closer to an exotic than the Fiero's could ever have been.

I agree that this guy's kit car is a compliment to the Kappa platform.

BlueSkyRL · 05-29-2008, 05:44 PM

It does look very nice

I would like to get a rear valence simular to this one...any ideas?

SteveSky67 · 05-29-2008, 05:58 PM

Damn, that is a sweet looking car and color!...SteveSky67

JoeBIII · 05-29-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyRL

It does look very nice

I would like to get a rear valence simular to this one...any ideas?

i agree. i like the fins on the rear bumper (doesn't look like a separate valence to me). i'm surprised there is not already an aftermarket valence with fins available.

GetAboutRL · 05-29-2008, 08:14 PM

If, our Kappa’s looked like that car … and then Beira designs their car to look like our current Sky or Solstice body style … many would wish to switch.

Folks, I still think we have the best looking car on the road … period.

Now if it only came stock with a V8/397 HP doing 0 - 60mph in 3.9 sec …

But then most of the current Kappa owners would not be owner’s

… but just admirer’s

OPEL-GT · 05-30-2008, 04:09 PM

I did some more research into this new Kappa vehicle. and was impressed by the Interior. I like the new color

RedSkyMan · 05-30-2008, 06:06 PM

That is an impressive and classy looking interior. I also like the look of the front, smooth lines and less grill area. Ge rid of the big elongated pocket for European license plates (don't need a front plate here) and it would look fantastic.

**todaresqSL2** · 06-04-2008, 09:53 AM

Just got a Google Alert on this car... Motor Trend has an article on it.

Breckland Beira - Auto News - Motor Trend

A thing I noticed... the shifter is not a short shifter. Why would they use a taller shift???

Also, in the article it states... "GM was also sourced for the cloth convertible top, while the interior is all custom-made by Breckland. "

Looking at the interior pics, especially the attached image... it just looks like they covered the SKY interior with fabrics and paint.

OLDMX4 · 06-04-2008, 10:35 AM

The interior almost looks like suede?

I love the matching colors on the windshield frame and behind the seats

idkfa · 06-04-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OLDMX4

The interior almost looks like suede?

I love the matching colors on the windshield frame and behind the seats

I've been looking for something classy to send to JPM for an upgrade. Those seats are it.

Jay_Sin · 06-07-2008, 04:09 PM

They don't credit GM nearly enough. They make it sound like they built the whole car themselves, yet it's barely changed at all other then some body panels and the engine. Just cause you re-cover the interior doesn't mean you custom made it.

gadget · 06-08-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay_Sin

They don't credit GM nearly enough. They make it sound like they built the whole car themselves, yet it's barely changed at all other then some body panels and the engine. Just cause you re-cover the interior doesn't mean you custom made it.

They say they use a GM chassis. You buy it and send it to them to rebuild or they buy it and remake it same as Mallett.

Looks to me like a Lotus Elise in the rear and a Maserati in the front. The way the front is built looks more aerodynamic than the Sky's.It Might allow for better hight speed performance.

It takes some pretty serious work to jam a V8 into a kappa especially if you put a six speed stick in with it. It's no walk in the park.

Jay_Sin · 06-08-2008, 06:10 PM

I guess I should have kept reading. I still think they should have changed it up a little more though. It's still way too similar to the Opel.

Bogie · 06-08-2008, 08:53 PM

In a sense, this is sort of a combination of a Mallet conversion, plus an interior cover, plus some body panel changes.

One nice thing about the kappa when it come to aftermarket is the kappa base architecture is designed to provide more or all body rigidity. This allows designers a lot of flexibility on the panels since they don't have to carry torsion loads. For the same reason the SKY can look different than the Solstice, the Beira can look different from the SKY or Solstice.

Another thing I found interesting is the electronic limited speed....155mph. It suggests there may be some design limits of the kappa that says to keep it under 160. Probably the top.

05-29-2008, 02:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
DeepBlueGXP Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lusby, MD (by Solomons) Posts: 122 My Photos: (0)	Sky got stolen!!! What a sweet looking car but, Breckland Technology appears to have ripped off Saturn Sky/Opel GT. Doesn't the fenders, humps, doors, mirrors, waterfall, and the covertible top look familiar? Even radio placement. Beira - The Beira \| Car Articles Breckland Technology Limited - Constructors of specialist low volume vehicles __________________ 2007 Deep GXP, Magnaflow 3" cat back exhaust, Dejon BOV Spring, Solo Performance High Flow CAT, Westers Garage Tune, K%N Drop in filter.

05-29-2008, 02:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
cfjara Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 261 My Photos: (0)	The Kappa platform is here to stay. I see it as a compliment to the solid design. I wouldn't be surprise if more 3rd parties start picking this up as basis for their custom cars. __________________ 2008 Sky Redline Onyx Black / Black&Tan Interior Spoiler / Chrome Wheels Monsoon Audio w/ 6Disk changer

05-29-2008, 03:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
DeepBlueGXP Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lusby, MD (by Solomons) Posts: 122 My Photos: (0)	I agree, but they should comment on where the technology came from, it's not as if they engineered it themselves. __________________ 2007 Deep GXP, Magnaflow 3" cat back exhaust, Dejon BOV Spring, Solo Performance High Flow CAT, Westers Garage Tune, K%N Drop in filter.

05-29-2008, 03:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
OPEL-GT Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 110 My Photos: (0)	here is a quote from topspeed.com "Don’t you think the car has a familiar look? Yes, you are right, it does! The car is based on the Opel GT to which the company adds a V8 engine. With this new roadster, Breckland Technology will enter the UK roadster market dominated by Marcos and TVR." the GT is not available in Britain.. so guess this fills the gap in the market Page10: roadster - Top Speed futher information can be found here : The Beira \| Car Articles __________________ Saturn Sky RL Triple Black Total Opel GT conversion kit (factory fitted) wind deflector stumpy antenna Last edited by OPEL-GT : 05-29-2008 at 03:30 PM. Reason: added second link

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05-29-2008, 04:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
mbeardsley Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Allen, Texas (just north of Dallas) Posts: 801 My Photos: (6)	Wow, from the title of this thread, I thought someon had actually gotten their car stolen! Though I just realized that I haven't heard of anyone getting their Sky stolen at all. I guess the theives figure the car stands out too much (and they probably don't like OnStar looking over their shoulder either). __________________ 2008 Red/Red/Redline Auto, Single Monsoon, Spoiler Deposit Placed 05/26/07 Order Number Received 06/08/07 Built 07/20/07 Delivered 08/07/07

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rufusmacblorf Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 90 My Photos: (0)	I sold my kit car just before I got my Sky. I built a Countach replica on a Fiero foundation. I installed a Chevy 350 to make it go. It was a lot of fun, but I wanted a real car, so I bought the Sky. I think the Kappa platform would be a wonderful foundation for kit cars. With a V8, the Kappa's performance is much closer to an exotic than the Fiero's could ever have been. I agree that this guy's kit car is a compliment to the Kappa platform. __________________ 07 silver graphite RL Magnaflow exhaust Stubby antenna Upgraded JL/Alpine sound system Windscreen

05-29-2008, 05:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
BlueSkyRL First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Up North! Posts: 975 My Photos: (0)	It does look very nice I would like to get a rear valence simular to this one...any ideas? __________________ Midnight Blue RL - Automatic Rust proofed & Undercoated Painted calipers and lettering Painted engine cover, fuse box, rearend Third brake light decal Opel Gt antenna 3" Magnaflow exhaust CTI hard pipes Dejon Intercooler

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GetAboutRL First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Capital District of New York Posts: 1,522 My Photos: (0)	If, our Kappa’s looked like that car … and then Beira designs their car to look like our current Sky or Solstice body style … many would wish to switch. Folks, I still think we have the best looking car on the road … period. Now if it only came stock with a V8/397 HP doing 0 - 60mph in 3.9 sec … But then most of the current Kappa owners would not be owner’s … but just admirer’s __________________ "Lucifer" is my name! Deposit:4-11-06 & Titled:11-28-06 SKY "Red Line" Silver Pearl, Black Wings on it's back, Bloody Red interior, Dejon intercooler/Solo Exhaust, Robert's screen. If you suddenly feel warm, it is just me passing through grinning!

05-30-2008, 04:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
OPEL-GT Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 110 My Photos: (0)	I did some more research into this new Kappa vehicle. and was impressed by the Interior. I like the new color Attached Thumbnails __________________ Saturn Sky RL Triple Black Total Opel GT conversion kit (factory fitted) wind deflector stumpy antenna

05-30-2008, 06:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
RedSkyMan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 402 My Photos: (6)	That is an impressive and classy looking interior. I also like the look of the front, smooth lines and less grill area. Ge rid of the big elongated pocket for European license plates (don't need a front plate here) and it would look fantastic. __________________ Chili Pepper Red Ordered 3-28-06 Delivered 6-29-06 Sent to Mallett 2-21-07 Delivered 5-11-07 #007 "Beast" LS-2 400 HP Dual Exhaust

06-04-2008, 09:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
todaresqSL2 First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,210 My Photos: (2)	Just got a Google Alert on this car... Motor Trend has an article on it. Breckland Beira - Auto News - Motor Trend A thing I noticed... the shifter is not a short shifter. Why would they use a taller shift??? Also, in the article it states... "GM was also sourced for the cloth convertible top, while the interior is all custom-made by Breckland. " Looking at the interior pics, especially the attached image... it just looks like they covered the SKY interior with fabrics and paint. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Adler SMS TB FalkenTires Pioneer Sub Rear Camera ACE 18" Rims Custom Paint JL Audio Amp SMS Headers Vertical Doors Pioneer AVIC-Z1 JL Audio Surrounds Functional Hood Vents KappaSphere - Saturn MotorSports 3800: 6-20-06 vin 3895

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OLDMX4 First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 254 My Photos: (13)	The interior almost looks like suede? I love the matching colors on the windshield frame and behind the seats __________________ Black Redline Black Leather 5-Spd Manual Chrome Wheels Deck Spoiler 6 CD/MP3 Monsoon XM Radio Stubby Antenna "ImSaturn" Member #139 OLDMX4 ImSaturn Page

06-07-2008, 04:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jay_Sin Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 173 My Photos: (0)	They don't credit GM nearly enough. They make it sound like they built the whole car themselves, yet it's barely changed at all other then some body panels and the engine. Just cause you re-cover the interior doesn't mean you custom made it. __________________ Future Solsitce Owner

06-08-2008, 06:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jay_Sin Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 173 My Photos: (0)	I guess I should have kept reading. I still think they should have changed it up a little more though. It's still way too similar to the Opel. __________________ Future Solsitce Owner

06-08-2008, 08:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Northern, VA Posts: 2,484 My Photos: (0)	In a sense, this is sort of a combination of a Mallet conversion, plus an interior cover, plus some body panel changes. One nice thing about the kappa when it come to aftermarket is the kappa base architecture is designed to provide more or all body rigidity. This allows designers a lot of flexibility on the panels since they don't have to carry torsion loads. For the same reason the SKY can look different than the Solstice, the Beira can look different from the SKY or Solstice. Another thing I found interesting is the electronic limited speed....155mph. It suggests there may be some design limits of the kappa that says to keep it under 160. Probably the top. __________________ 2008 Redline Black Onyx Black/Red Leather Monsoon 6 Disc Spoiler French Transmission Born July 2007 Snagged 8/31/07 Belle? That's my car Alizée? That's my avatar Me? Forty something male skydriver Last edited by Bogie : 06-08-2008 at 08:56 PM.