OnStar to stop stolen cars...

**Ahnuld** · 10-09-2007, 07:58 AM

"Starting with about 20 models for 2009, the service will be able to slowly halt a car that is reported stolen, and the radio may even speak up and tell the thief to pull over because police are watching.
OnStar already finds 700 to 800 cars per month using the global positioning system. With the new technology, which OnStar President Chet Huber said GM will apply to the rest of its lineup in future years, OnStar would call police and tell them a stolen car's whereabouts.
Then, if officers see the car in motion and judge it can be stopped safely, they can tell OnStar operators, who will send the car a signal via cell phone to slow it to a halt"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071009/..._te/stop_thief

Very Cool!!!

Antonio · 10-09-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahnuld

"Starting with about 20 models for 2009, the service will be able to slowly halt a car that is reported stolen, and the radio may even speak up and tell the thief to pull over because police are watching.
OnStar already finds 700 to 800 cars per month using the global positioning system. With the new technology, which OnStar President Chet Huber said GM will apply to the rest of its lineup in future years, OnStar would call police and tell them a stolen car's whereabouts.
Then, if officers see the car in motion and judge it can be stopped safely, they can tell OnStar operators, who will send the car a signal via cell phone to slow it to a halt"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071009/..._te/stop_thief

Very Cool!!!

very cool indeed. And a godsend for insurance costs. Any vehicle equipped with this onstar system would have incredibly low insurance costs. not only recover a stolen vehicle (like lojack) but to actually STOP that vehicle dead in its tracks.....LoJack can't do that. I wonder if this system will be reverse compatible with 2007 models, i'd send my car back to the dealer for this upgrade in a heart beat.

bigdog · 10-09-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

very cool indeed. And a godsend for insurance costs. Any vehicle equipped with this onstar system would have incredibly low insurance costs. not only recover a stolen vehicle (like lojack) but to actually STOP that vehicle dead in its tracks.....LoJack can't do that. I wonder if this system will be reverse compatible with 2007 models, i'd send my car back to the dealer for this upgrade in a heart beat.

I'm with you. If it's reverse compatible I'll be first in line at my dealer! My insurance is already 15% lower just becasue of OnStar.

SkyBaby · 10-09-2007, 12:42 PM

so.... you can retrofit to ours? SkyBaby

Antonio · 10-09-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyBaby

so.... you can retrofit to ours? SkyBaby

we don't know, we just hope

TulsaSky · 10-09-2007, 01:01 PM

I heard the news this morning on the local news but I have to wonder if they cannot already do this? My 06 Impala has remote start if I can stand 50 feet away and start or stop the engine on my car seems OnStar that can access my whole car and lock and unlock my doors would have the same access to my remote start. When I program a new remote (key fob) its the lock unlock button that resets the new and old key fob and like magic the remote start works. I personally thing Big Brother already has this technology they just did not want to freak out us buyers until 5 million of us got used to this whole concept on OnStar. I wonder if OnStar can pull up a google type map and tell you every car that has Onstar in a square mile by doing a search for the GPS on all cars equipped?
Consider your car is mistaken for a look alike that was in a bank robbery, (my white Impala, at least 100 in Tulsa) your late for an appointment and exceeding the speed, all at once you car shuts down in the middle lane of the interstate and the radio comes on and tells you, "your under arrest" and the doors lock, your trapped in your own car. Just pray you don't get mangled by a 18-wheeler until the police arrive and arrest you! Yea this could and will happen just wait!

TulsaSky

SkyMan 08 · 10-09-2007, 03:33 PM

All a thief has to do is break off the ON STAR antenna before stealing the car... then it won't work.

Antonio · 10-09-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyMan 08

All a thief has to do is break off the ON STAR antenna before stealing the car... then it won't work.

i believe this was discussed once before. I think either the onstar system can work without the antenna, just at a limited range/area, or there's a secondary antenna we don't know about.

dengel · 10-09-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyMan 08

All a thief has to do is break off the ON STAR antenna before stealing the car... then it won't work.

I guess I just don't believe that the auto and insurance industries would rely on an anti-theft device that could be so easily defeated, but I don't believe this is technically correct. The antenna on the outside of the car is for the cell phone part of the Onstar system. If you snap off the shark fin antenna which is for the cell phone, then the cell phone part of the system may not work (or it may still work, depending on signal strength). But there is also a GPS transmitter portion of the Onstar system. This GPS transmitter is somewhere inside the car, tied into the electrical system, so even if the cell phone capabillity is disabled, the GPS locator portion of Onstar should continue to work.

Now if the thief disconnects the battery, he may be able to defeat the GPS transmitter, but then he would need to tow your car away on a flat bed to steal it.

dengel · 10-09-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by electronic design article about Onstar

Within the vehicle, a communications processor is located and tied to a bus, the car's radio, a remote GPS antenna, and a microphone located above the rear-view mirror, along with a cellular antenna that's mounted on the rear window (Fig. 2).

So it appears there is a separate "remote GPS antenna" inside the car somewhere.

**Skip** · 10-09-2007, 04:44 PM

Ok lets settle this once and for all. I will go snap off my ONSTAR antenna and then call it in as stolen. I will report back in about a half hour and tell yall what happens...Skip..giving his all for the forum....

SkyMan 08 · 10-09-2007, 05:03 PM

Well I hope you guys are right.. but I have heard stories..both ways...

**Skip** · 10-09-2007, 05:04 PM

Ok now I done somthing I am not proud of. The Huntsville Police Dept. has allowed me to post this one last item before I am taken downtown for calling in a false police call. My house was surrounded by three cop cars and guns were drawn as they came into my back yard. They found me sitting in the Sky and then I had to lay down on top of a fire ant nest while they checked for firearms. I guess this experiment worked and now I have five to ten if convicted to make up for it. I will see, if I plead on the mercy of the court if I can just wear an orange jumpsuit and pick up trash along side the road. Iffen yall see an ol fat man picking up trash on the road, honk your horn and I will wave at yall. Boy, the things I do for the forum....Skip....dedicated, determined, dependable....

SkyMan 08 · 10-09-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip

Ok now I done somthing I am not proud of. The Huntsville Police Dept. has allowed me to post this one last item before I am taken downtown for calling in a false police call. My house was surrounded by three cop cars and guns were drawn as they came into my back yard. They found me sitting in the Sky and then I had to lay down on top of a fire ant nest while they checked for firearms. I guess this experiment worked and now I have five to ten if convicted to make up for it. I will see, if I plead on the mercy of the court if I can just wear an orange jumpsuit and pick up trash along side the road. Iffen yall see an ol fat man picking up trash on the road, honk your horn and I will wave at yall. Boy, the things I do for the forum....Skip....dedicated, determined, dependable....

tell em it was my fault..

**Skip** · 10-09-2007, 05:13 PM

They did not get my blackberry and as I sit in the holding cell here I can post to the forum. Dang that guy is giving me the eye. Well hopefully when I tell them some guy in Tenn. told me to do it they will let me go. Now the guy is sitting right next to me now and put his arms around me. What can I say he loves my personality I guess....Skip...more later...

**Skip** · 10-09-2007, 05:19 PM

Well I got another charge against me -assult and battery. It seems the guy was not interested in my personality but my big ol butt. Well he is speaking in high squeaks now and will be for about two hours. They decided to take him to the infirmery. What can I say I am such a handsome guy. yeah right....Skip..later....

SkyMan 08 · 10-09-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip

Well I got another charge against me -assult and battery. It seems the guy was not interested in my personality but my big ol butt. Well he is speaking in high squeaks now and will be for about two hours. They decided to take him to the infirmery. What can I say I am such a handsome guy. yeah right....Skip..later....

what did you do??throw your enegizer d-cell at the Guy? "Assault with a Battery"

**Skip** · 10-09-2007, 05:38 PM

Naw the d-cell was what kept the blackberry running. I kicked his ding-a-ling until it dang-a-langed and then the squeaking started. Well they are coming now , I guess my youngins got me bailed out . They said the bail was $1.95 and they scrapped it up. I love my youngins they gonna do their daddy proud....Skip...posting from the sweet air of freedom next to the outhouse. Cough cough...

Wolfheart · 02-21-2008, 05:05 PM

I was told by the sales associate the ONstar theft system would not work if the antenna was removed, but then again he might had just wanted to sell the Lojack system to me. Personally I did not and have not activated the ONstar system, I just don't need more people being able to tell how I drive and how fast I drive. LOL

10-09-2007, 07:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ahnuld First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ-TP: Exit 3 Posts: 1,348 My Photos: (1)	OnStar to stop stolen cars... "Starting with about 20 models for 2009, the service will be able to slowly halt a car that is reported stolen, and the radio may even speak up and tell the thief to pull over because police are watching. OnStar already finds 700 to 800 cars per month using the global positioning system. With the new technology, which OnStar President Chet Huber said GM will apply to the rest of its lineup in future years, OnStar would call police and tell them a stolen car's whereabouts. Then, if officers see the car in motion and judge it can be stopped safely, they can tell OnStar operators, who will send the car a signal via cell phone to slow it to a halt" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071009/..._te/stop_thief Very Cool!!! __________________ Ahnuld SKY RL - Yellow Delivered Nov 17,2006 An early Redline made right after the turbo shutdown, I have powerlocks, but no power seat. 21,000 Miles (as of June 2008). No Issues! Last edited by Ahnuld : 10-09-2007 at 08:03 AM.

10-09-2007, 12:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
SkyBaby First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Somewhere In The SKY! Posts: 7,137 My Photos: (13)	so.... you can retrofit to ours? SkyBaby __________________ Whats NOT to Love??? I would much rather stand out in a crowd and be noticed than life just pass me by while I am bitter! www.kappascoasttocoast.com www.kustomkaps.com www.flameball.com

10-09-2007, 01:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
TulsaSky First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Skiatook, OK Posts: 976 My Photos: (2)	Remote Start & Stop? I heard the news this morning on the local news but I have to wonder if they cannot already do this? My 06 Impala has remote start if I can stand 50 feet away and start or stop the engine on my car seems OnStar that can access my whole car and lock and unlock my doors would have the same access to my remote start. When I program a new remote (key fob) its the lock unlock button that resets the new and old key fob and like magic the remote start works. I personally thing Big Brother already has this technology they just did not want to freak out us buyers until 5 million of us got used to this whole concept on OnStar. I wonder if OnStar can pull up a google type map and tell you every car that has Onstar in a square mile by doing a search for the GPS on all cars equipped? Consider your car is mistaken for a look alike that was in a bank robbery, (my white Impala, at least 100 in Tulsa) your late for an appointment and exceeding the speed, all at once you car shuts down in the middle lane of the interstate and the radio comes on and tells you, "your under arrest" and the doors lock, your trapped in your own car. Just pray you don't get mangled by a 18-wheeler until the police arrive and arrest you! Yea this could and will happen just wait! TulsaSky __________________ 06 Daytona Sunset Orange Corvette Coupe 06 White Impala FlexFuel LS2-Daily Driver 00 White Silverado Pickup-Daily Driver 64 Sapphire Blue Sunbeam Alpine – restored 07 Midnight Blue Red Line Sky Born 10/9-13 Delivered 11/14/2006

10-09-2007, 03:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
SkyMan 08 First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: God's Country Posts: 2,900 My Photos: (16)	All a thief has to do is break off the ON STAR antenna before stealing the car... then it won't work. __________________ Tim Johnson City, Tenessee Nitesky 2 2008 Automatic, premimum trim Chilipepper red Black leather, black top. painted wheels.

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SkyMan 08 First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: God's Country Posts: 2,900 My Photos: (16)	Well I hope you guys are right.. but I have heard stories..both ways... __________________ Tim Johnson City, Tenessee Nitesky 2 2008 Automatic, premimum trim Chilipepper red Black leather, black top. painted wheels. Last edited by SkyMan 08 : 10-09-2007 at 06:48 PM.

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02-21-2008, 05:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
Wolfheart Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains in So. Cal. Posts: 55 My Photos: (0)	I was told by the sales associate the ONstar theft system would not work if the antenna was removed, but then again he might had just wanted to sell the Lojack system to me. Personally I did not and have not activated the ONstar system, I just don't need more people being able to tell how I drive and how fast I drive. LOL __________________ Black 2008 Sky RL, red interior.