Annoying: No power locks button?

migg750 · 07-05-2006, 05:40 PM

No power lock buttons!! Well That i must say is one of the most annoying non-features of the SKY. But it does have power locks just not a button in the car. SO when u hit the key fob the car has actuaters that unlock the door. So theoretically a good custom guy could hook up a button to the actuators in place. I guess u would just need the wiring schematics. Any one else have any input on that. Im not a pro so my theory could be flawed.

Rick Tinley Park · 07-05-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by migg750

No power lock buttons!! Well That i must say is one of the most annoying non-features of the SKY. But it does have power locks just not a button in the car. SO when u hit the key fob the car has actuaters that unlock the door. So theoretically a good custom guy could hook up a button to the actuators in place. I guess u would just need the wiring schematics. Any one else have any input on that. Im not a pro so my theory could be flawed.

One heck of a lot easier to hit the fob....

ggccg · 07-05-2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Tinley Park

One heck of a lot easier to hit the fob....

or take your spare key fob and velcro it to the perfect power door lock button place of your choosing.

agirltrucker · 07-05-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ggccg

or take your spare key fob and velcro it to the perfect power door lock button place of your choosing.

I have to say this one gave me a chuckle...

jarcher · 07-05-2006, 08:02 PM

I find that pretty annoying as well. Letting friends in and out (since the things locks the doors on you when it moves) requires groping around for the button on the fob. It woulden't have killed Saturn to have a button somewhere.

NCRedLine · 07-05-2006, 08:06 PM

I think it's stupid not to have a lock button by the window buttons. I know it is supposed to be safer if your doors are locked if your in a wreck but, I wonder if there is a way to disable the locks from locking when you move?

Iceman49 · 07-05-2006, 09:16 PM

I believe on the other 3 Saturns I have owned that there was a way to program it to not lock automatically...in the owners manual.

**rick112** · 07-05-2006, 09:47 PM

And that ladies and Gents is one of the biggest grips about the 2007 Saturn Sky. Congrat's Saturn!

**Skip** · 07-06-2006, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by migg750

No power lock buttons!! Well That i must say is one of the most annoying non-features of the SKY. But it does have power locks just not a button in the car. SO when u hit the key fob the car has actuaters that unlock the door. So theoretically a good custom guy could hook up a button to the actuators in place. I guess u would just need the wiring schematics. Any one else have any input on that. Im not a pro so my theory could be flawed.

Dont be so dang lazy and reach around and unlock the dang door... Skip old fashioned and doing it myself....

marlboromike · 07-06-2006, 12:52 AM

less is more..the poor poor handicapped passenger cannot open a door manually...I feel so so bad.

topperge · 07-06-2006, 01:04 AM

I haven't had a door lock button since I bought my GTO, I'm not missing anything...

SkyMan 08 · 07-06-2006, 07:37 AM

here we go beating the same old dead horse...

seems like people are so spoiled now, they cannot remember a time when only the highest priced cars had power door locks on them... 90% of the cars had the manual locks with the knob in the same location as on the Sky... Come on guys, reach over your shoulder or turn a little bit in your seat and PULL UP THE KNOB.. Geese... What would you do if you had to use a key to unlock the door... OH MY disaster then... you could always buy a base Solstice, they have no power locks at all...

PS there is no way to completely disable the auto lock feature without disabling the power locks all together . sorry...

Lil GTO · 07-06-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRedLine

I think it's stupid not to have a lock button by the window buttons. I know it is supposed to be safer if your doors are locked if your in a wreck but, I wonder if there is a way to disable the locks from locking when you move?

I think I have heard that - about supposedly safer - but is that true or just a myth? Seems that having the door unlocked would allow you to be resuced more easily - of course if you have an accident bad enough to trap you in your car I doubt the doors locked or unlocked woudl make much difference. Seems that doors locked would have more to do with not getting car-jacked, or if some bumped into you on purpose in order to commit some further crime against you.

I prefer cars that let the driver decide these things. Auto-matic seatbelts - no thanks, nearly got choked by one while working on a car and leaning out the driver door. Auto-matic door locks - no thanks, I'll decide when I want to lock my doors thank you. Although my Honda will lock the doors after a monute if you unlock them with the remote then do not open the drivers door and (I think) will lock the doors if you shut off the car, close all the doors, and leave it for a couple minutes. Which is not bad, unless you set your keys down inside the car, buckle your kid into the backseat, close the door then walk around to get in the driver door only to find it locked (which has not yet happened to me, but it could, but I learned never to close a door or the trunk unless I have my keys in hand after accidentally locking them in the trunk at an amusement park only to discover them missing after having spent the entire day in the park).

Actually this is related to the Automatic vs Manual Transmission - no matter how well designed the automatic system is - you cannot possibly build it and or program it to account for all possible combinations of circumstances that every customer will encounter through the life of the product.

And this applies not only to cars - a software program that I use for work every day has automatic features designed into it and I told the developers during the beta-testing phase that automatic features are okay so long as you can either guarantee that they will function correctly 100% of the time or you can provide a manual work around to allow more experienced users to generate the proper output when the automatic function is not working correctly.

SkyMan 08 · 07-06-2006, 10:23 AM

[quote=Lil GTO]I think I have heard that - about supposedly safer - but is that true or just a myth? Seems that having the door unlocked would allow you to be resuced more easily - of course if you have an accident bad enough to trap you in your car I doubt the doors locked or unlocked woudl make much difference. Seems that doors locked would have more to do with not getting car-jacked, or if some bumped into you on purpose in order to commit some further crime against you.

QUOTE]
it is not a myth, it keeps form the door handle from accidently getting pulled, either the outside one or inside one and the door opening and part or all of you getting smashed on the pavement (depending if you are wearing your seatbelt or not), or by another car.. A piece of clothing could get caught on the inside handle while you are getting jossled around and pull the handle( and for that matter if there was a button you could hit it and unlock the door anyway), that is why they don't have the pull the handle to unlock the door feature some people want... besides, if you are in a accident bad enough to get trapped they are going to cut you out anyway so the door being locked won't matter to the Jaws of life...
It is just another feature I don't have to worry about my wife driving late at night and forgetting to lock her door and some bad person comes up and tries to get in her car... it is a minor inconvenience to reach around every once in a while to unlock the door, but the safety and security is worth it to me...

bigdog · 07-06-2006, 10:56 AM

I just had to add my .02 to this. I have the auto trans and all I need to do to unlock the doors is put it in P. My other Saturns have this feature too so this is not a big deal to me.

I do however understand the issue for those who are driving the "correctly trannied"

V8 SKY · 07-06-2006, 11:06 AM

The best solution to this would be for a software update for the manual transmission cars that would unlock the doors when you applied the parking brake.

They have all the sensors they need already (the car knows its speed, and knows when the parking brake has been applied), they just have to write the routine that unlocks the doors when the car is stopped and the parking brake is set. This is the closest thing to an automatic transmission's "PARK" that a manual can mimic.

MattBrenner03 · 07-12-2006, 03:30 PM

i've never had power anything so this will be awesome for me no matter what. although i do think a button would make sense....can't really see the reason for not having it. oh well i just want my car!!

Rick Tinley Park · 07-12-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jarcher

I find that pretty annoying as well. Letting friends in and out (since the things locks the doors on you when it moves) requires groping around for the button on the fob. It woulden't have killed Saturn to have a button somewhere.

Sometimes groping around in a car is fun... But you'd only be groping for a button as well, just like the fob...

bradyb · 07-12-2006, 05:12 PM

[quote=Rick Tinley Park]Sometimes groping around in a car is fun... /QUOTE]

I wonder which parts bin the door hardware came from, probably something somewhere that doesn't have standard power locks.

If you guys want to drop your car off at my place, for $300 I can set it up so the doors unlock when you pull up the emergency brake. $5 in wiring and a relay or two would be get 'er done.

The GTO is really funny, $34K and no unlock button. I guess in aussie land they don't use power door lock buttons.

Ernest · 07-12-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyMan 07

here we go beating the same old dead horse...

seems like people are so spoiled now, they cannot remember a time when only the highest priced cars had power door locks on them... 90% of the cars had the manual locks with the knob in the same location as on the Sky... Come on guys, reach over your shoulder or turn a little bit in your seat and PULL UP THE KNOB.. Geese... What would you do if you had to use a key to unlock the door... OH MY disaster then... you could always buy a base Solstice, they have no power locks at all...

PS there is no way to completely disable the auto lock feature without disabling the power locks all together . sorry...

The SKY isn't about power locks, autmatic tops, it is about the fun of driving a roadster, top down and in the wind!!

Inwo · 07-12-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GByrnes

The best solution to this would be for a software update for the manual transmission cars that would unlock the doors when you applied the parking brake.

Gosh but that would get annoying when you enter a drifting competition!

07-05-2006, 05:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
migg750 First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NEW YORK CITY Posts: 178 My Photos: (11)	Annoying: No power locks button? No power lock buttons!! Well That i must say is one of the most annoying non-features of the SKY. But it does have power locks just not a button in the car. SO when u hit the key fob the car has actuaters that unlock the door. So theoretically a good custom guy could hook up a button to the actuators in place. I guess u would just need the wiring schematics. Any one else have any input on that. Im not a pro so my theory could be flawed. __________________ MIDNITE BLUE SKY 5spd lsd HID Lights 6000K Air Horn Cockpit Motion sensor alarm LED windscreen Magnaflow Quad exhaust model #14267 (muffler) Foose Chrome rims Werks Turbo in my sites Last edited by migg750 : 07-05-2006 at 05:44 PM.

07-05-2006, 08:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
NCRedLine First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winston-Salem, North Carolina Posts: 294 My Photos: (10)	I think it's stupid not to have a lock button by the window buttons. I know it is supposed to be safer if your doors are locked if your in a wreck but, I wonder if there is a way to disable the locks from locking when you move? __________________ Lucas Sky Redline Chili Pepper Red, black leather & top, auto, 6 CD/mp3, chrome wheels #KGMGCS Ordered: 06-24-06 3800 produced 10/24/06 4b00 Bayed 10/26/06 4106 Release bailment 10/27/06 4200 Shipped 10/27/06 HOME 11-27-06!!

07-05-2006, 09:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
rick112 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,190 My Photos: (0)	And that ladies and Gents is one of the biggest grips about the 2007 Saturn Sky. Congrat's Saturn! __________________ Chili Pepper Red & Tan VIN 4927 Preorder July/05 Ordered January 23/06 Preferenced May 22/06 TPW July 10/06 Built July 11/06 Shipped July 14/06 Invoiced July 17/06 At dealership July 31/06 My driveway August 2/06

07-06-2006, 07:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
SkyMan 08 First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: God's Country Posts: 2,902 My Photos: (16)	dead horse time again here we go beating the same old dead horse... seems like people are so spoiled now, they cannot remember a time when only the highest priced cars had power door locks on them... 90% of the cars had the manual locks with the knob in the same location as on the Sky... Come on guys, reach over your shoulder or turn a little bit in your seat and PULL UP THE KNOB.. Geese... What would you do if you had to use a key to unlock the door... OH MY disaster then... you could always buy a base Solstice, they have no power locks at all... PS there is no way to completely disable the auto lock feature without disabling the power locks all together . sorry... __________________ Tim Johnson City, Tenessee Nitesky 2 2008 Automatic, premimum trim Chilipepper red Black leather, black top. painted wheels.

07-06-2006, 10:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
SkyMan 08 First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: God's Country Posts: 2,902 My Photos: (16)	[quote=Lil GTO]I think I have heard that - about supposedly safer - but is that true or just a myth? Seems that having the door unlocked would allow you to be resuced more easily - of course if you have an accident bad enough to trap you in your car I doubt the doors locked or unlocked woudl make much difference. Seems that doors locked would have more to do with not getting car-jacked, or if some bumped into you on purpose in order to commit some further crime against you. QUOTE] it is not a myth, it keeps form the door handle from accidently getting pulled, either the outside one or inside one and the door opening and part or all of you getting smashed on the pavement (depending if you are wearing your seatbelt or not), or by another car.. A piece of clothing could get caught on the inside handle while you are getting jossled around and pull the handle( and for that matter if there was a button you could hit it and unlock the door anyway), that is why they don't have the pull the handle to unlock the door feature some people want... besides, if you are in a accident bad enough to get trapped they are going to cut you out anyway so the door being locked won't matter to the Jaws of life... It is just another feature I don't have to worry about my wife driving late at night and forgetting to lock her door and some bad person comes up and tries to get in her car... it is a minor inconvenience to reach around every once in a while to unlock the door, but the safety and security is worth it to me... __________________ Tim Johnson City, Tenessee Nitesky 2 2008 Automatic, premimum trim Chilipepper red Black leather, black top. painted wheels.

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07-05-2006, 08:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
jarcher First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Smithfield, RI Posts: 474 My Photos: (0)	I find that pretty annoying as well. Letting friends in and out (since the things locks the doors on you when it moves) requires groping around for the button on the fob. It woulden't have killed Saturn to have a button somewhere.

07-05-2006, 09:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Iceman49 First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 65 My Photos: (0)	I believe on the other 3 Saturns I have owned that there was a way to program it to not lock automatically...in the owners manual.

07-06-2006, 12:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
marlboromike First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Marlboro, NJ Posts: 7,125 My Photos: (6)	less is more..the poor poor handicapped passenger cannot open a door manually...I feel so so bad.

07-06-2006, 01:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
topperge First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 37 My Photos: (0)	I haven't had a door lock button since I bought my GTO, I'm not missing anything...

07-06-2006, 10:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
bigdog First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern California Posts: 840 My Photos: (5)	Power door locks I just had to add my .02 to this. I have the auto trans and all I need to do to unlock the doors is put it in P. My other Saturns have this feature too so this is not a big deal to me. I do however understand the issue for those who are driving the "correctly trannied" __________________ -Pete WCKCC member 2.4L, silver graphite VIN: 01472 Delivered 5/23/2006 - Contracted SGS the same day SGS = Silly Grin Syndrome ________________________ Universal Law of Location: No matter where you go, there you are.

07-06-2006, 11:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
V8 SKY First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 309 My Photos: (0)	The best solution to this would be for a software update for the manual transmission cars that would unlock the doors when you applied the parking brake. They have all the sensors they need already (the car knows its speed, and knows when the parking brake has been applied), they just have to write the routine that unlocks the doors when the car is stopped and the parking brake is set. This is the closest thing to an automatic transmission's "PARK" that a manual can mimic. __________________ V8 SKY Formerly GByrnes SE Michigan Mallett V8 SKY #004 Order: 1-21-06 Delivery: 5-24-06 Sent to Mallett: 1-3-07 Mallett Delivered: 2-16-07 Mid Blue, Blk Leather,LSD And I Collect PINBALL MACHINES http://www.flickr.com/photos/clarkston_pins/sets/

07-12-2006, 03:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
MattBrenner03 First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 225 My Photos: (0)	i've never had power anything so this will be awesome for me no matter what. although i do think a button would make sense....can't really see the reason for not having it. oh well i just want my car!! __________________ Redline Silver Graphite Black top, black leather 5-speed Chrome Wheels Single disc monsoon Depsoit: 7/11/06 Delivered: 2/27/07 VIN: 126935

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bradyb First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Salt Lake CIty Posts: 325 My Photos: (4)	[quote=Rick Tinley Park]Sometimes groping around in a car is fun... /QUOTE] I wonder which parts bin the door hardware came from, probably something somewhere that doesn't have standard power locks. If you guys want to drop your car off at my place, for $300 I can set it up so the doors unlock when you pull up the emergency brake. $5 in wiring and a relay or two would be get 'er done. The GTO is really funny, $34K and no unlock button. I guess in aussie land they don't use power door lock buttons. __________________ Waiting For Chilli Pepper R/L Black Interior/Top- Bought a 2008 black/black GXP, GMMP CAI. 2007 Charger R/T K&N, Sol 1 Charger 0 '04 Suburban-8 Seats make up for two!