GG GM. Way to go.

[RPIpower]

I've always been annoyed at the fact that we dont have roll over protection.....

"MARSHALL -- While driving a 2007 Saturn Sky, Stephen Slider lost control and hit a concrete culvert, causing the vehicle to roll over.

Although Slider maintains he was wearing his seatbelt at the time of the accident, he states he was injured due to the defective nature of the vehicle. Slider states that the luxury sports car was not "reasonably crashworthy, and was not reasonably fit for unintended, but clearly foreseeable, accidents."

Slider and his wife filed a motor vehicle product liability suit against the car's manufacturer, General Motors Corporation, on June20 in the Marshall Division of the Eastern District of Texas.

The complaint alleges the vehicle was defective due to failure to provide adequate occupant protection in a rollover, insufficient structural integrity of roof rail, failure of the vehicle's rollover protection mounts, lack of pop up roll bars or pop up seats, failure to reinforce high back seats to withstand rollover forces, and failure of the defendant to conduct drop tests or rollover testing.

Further, the plaintiff alleges the vehicle was defective by violating the principles of crashworthiness by the destruction of the survival space and failure of survival space rendering other safety systems ineffective.

The suit seeks more than $75,000 in damages for medical expenses, pain and suffering, extreme emotional distress, mental anguish, impairment, disfigurement, lost wages, diminished earning capacity, interference with daily activities, and reduced capacity to enjoy life.

Slider's wife is seeking additional damages for loss of consortium.

Dallas attorneys E. Todd Tracy and Andrew Counts of the Tracy Firm and Tyler attorneys Matthew B. Flanery and Darren Grant of the Grant and Flanery PC are representing the plaintiffs.

Judge T. John Ward will preside over the litigation.

Case No 2:2008cv00248"


Southeast Texas Record | GM sued after sports car rollover

I've tried to install a roll over bar/hoop but the car was just not made to accept one. Here is a picture of whats under the covers when I was checking for points where I can install roll over protection.

[RedSkyWV]

It calls a Sky a "luxury sports car"

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by RedSkyWV

It calls a Sky a "luxury sports car"

lmao yeah right. All the plastic inside makes it ultra luxurious. Hell, GM cant even decide which way to put the power lock switch/button. Some are "down" to unlock and some are "up" to unlock.

[Ahnuld]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

....Stephen Slider lost control and hit a concrete culvert, causing the vehicle to roll over.

This is NOT GM's fault... look at this guy's name....With a name like that ya have to expect that it was just a matter of time... regardless of the car.


In other news... The first "Name Based" Recall has just been announced. Drivers Ulf D. Bridge, N. A. Wreck, and U. R. Mangled have been asked to return their cars for a full refund.

I know.. I know...
<groan>

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by Ahnuld

This is NOT GM's fault... look at this guy's name....With a name like that ya have to expect that it was just a matter of time... regardless of the car.


In other news... The first "Name Based" Recall has just been announced. Drivers Ulf D. Bridge, N. A. Wreck, and U. R. Mangled have been asked to return their cars for a full refund.

I know.. I know...
<groan>

Yes, the driver caused the accident. Its dissappointing that the car that is made for spirited driving has no roll over protection.

[RedSkyWV]

There should definitely be a little roll over protection, but in an inexpensive car it's hard to fault them too much. Also don't feel a bit sorry for Mr. Slider, it was his own fault...

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[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by RedSkyWV

There should definitely be a little roll over protection, but in an inexpensive car it's hard to fault them too much. Also don't feel a bit sorry for Mr. Slider, it was his own fault...

I paid $35k for my sky. There are several cars under or around the same price range that offer roll over protection. Hell, look how many miatas can go to open track day, where we get turned down because we cant put roll bars in our cars.

[Bogie]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

The suit seeks more than $75,000 in damages

Is $75K a break point for the type of litigation or jurisdiction? "More than..." doesn't say much. More than $75K could be $100K, $1Million, $1Billion.

[MidniteBlues]

These roadsters were not designed for "track days", or 'racing', or in proper starts (burning rubber), or any other illegal activities. If driven properly, you don't need "roll over" protection, especially with a "mature" or a "professional" driver behind the wheel. If you know your going to be doing/going or driving crazy, or at high speeds or doing crazy eights, donuts etc etc, YOU the DRIVER take all the risks AND responsibility for doing, making, or exceeding the design parameters of the car for the purpose it was designed for. You wanna change That? then modify it to keep your azz safe... You wanna stay on 4 wheels/ then drive like a normal person, and that is, no crazy maneuvers and within the LEGAL SPEED LIMITS!!! Idiots want to take a "street car" and drive like an azz, then flips the car and wants to sue the manufacturer, give me a break.. Sorta like the same defense that Hulk Hogans dumb kid did, crippled his friend, he is in jail and no remorse.. just wants "daddy" to get his azz outa jail....please...

Take responsibility for your own actions is the answer...

[twirp]

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yeah... So anyway, I will look into a roll bar with or without a functioning top in the future.
I'm missing way too many track days.

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[Riddla]

sounds like someone skipped Performance driving class )

Fact = sky doesnt offer rollover protection

Fact = A good driver doesnt need roll-over protection (or esc bogie :P)

[|V3nom|]

Originally Posted by MidniteBlues

These roadsters were not designed for "track days", or 'racing', or in proper starts (burning rubber), or any other illegal activities. If driven properly, you don't need "roll over" protection, especially with a "mature" or a "professional" driver behind the wheel. If you know your going to be doing/going or driving crazy, or at high speeds or doing crazy eights, donuts etc etc, YOU the DRIVER take all the risks AND responsibility for doing, making, or exceeding the design parameters of the car for the purpose it was designed for. You wanna change That? then modify it to keep your azz safe... You wanna stay on 4 wheels/ then drive like a normal person, and that is, no crazy maneuvers and within the LEGAL SPEED LIMITS!!! Idiots want to take a "street car" and drive like an azz, then flips the car and wants to sue the manufacturer, give me a break.. Sorta like the same defense that Hulk Hogans dumb kid did, crippled his friend, he is in jail and no remorse.. just wants "daddy" to get his azz outa jail....please...

Take responsibility for your own actions is the answer...

so what if someone clearly in the wrong hits the side of your car in such a way that it causes you to flip, what then? its not always the driver, im sure it was in this case, but its not always so. theres no excuse why they cant/didnt put a roll over bar in, kinda stupid if you ask me. i dont plan on going to the track or putting my car in a situation where it can roll over so im not too worried about it but the extra protection would be a nice ease of mind.

[MidniteBlues]

Originally Posted by |V3nom|

so what if someone clearly in the wrong hits the side of your car in such a way that it causes you to flip, what then? its not always the driver, im sure it was in this case, but its not always so. theres no excuse why they cant/didnt put a roll over bar in, kinda stupid if you ask me. i dont plan on going to the track or putting my car in a situation where it can roll over so im not too worried about it but the extra protection would be a nice ease of mind.

Indeed, but that can happen with ANY CAR or VEHICLE.. Are you now suggesting that ALL vehicles be equipped with roll bars?? I'm for that for sure...Make me safer that my daughters, and wife are fully safe, as your important ones.. However, if you think "logically", you take a chance every day when you walk out your front..There are NO guarantees, you will be back that night...Unless you have a magic pill??? Well?? do ya???

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Originally Posted by Riddla

sounds like someone skipped Performance driving class )

Fact = sky doesnt offer rollover protection

Fact = A good driver doesnt need roll-over protection (or esc bogie :P)

-The Sky can get a roll cage/bar, depends on how far you want to mod the car.
-All real track racers should have one. You can't be sure the guy next to you is as skilled a driver. (track or street, for that matter)
-Seen a rolled race car? ugly.
-If you race, get a cage. If you want one for your street car, why not? Extra protection never hurt.

[cerberus]

I'm gonna need a couple a swipes at this one. Dinner's just about ready, but I just gotta jump in. So, MB I read your statement of "track days" in quotes as the bogus posts we occasionally see, which run contrary to forum rules anyway. Si? No? Yeah, I hear your frustration with our legal junk, but hey man, it's just a fact. Whenever something goes terribly wrong, lawyers are going to test it. Outcomes aren't always what we'd like, esp as parties are doing the financial calculus, but hey, it ain't going away. Our cars don't tend to rollover. They have a great rollover rating. Just part of the nature of this type of car. But. Unlike non verts, your last statement's a bit off. It's far more significant if we roll. We'll need a good chunk of bad luck, and it'll be rare, but it _can_ happen. If it does... ug.

One test question. If we had a factory option for a moderate amount of $, what % of buyers would opt for one? I'd bet the vast minority.

Ok, brb. Next rambling chunk after some grub.

[MidniteBlues]

Originally Posted by cerberus

I'm gonna need a couple a swipes at this one. Dinner's just about ready, but I just gotta jump in. So, MB I read your statement of "track days" in quotes as the bogus posts we occasionally see, which run contrary to forum rules anyway. Si? No? Yeah, I hear your frustration with our legal junk, but hey man, it's just a fact. Whenever something goes terribly wrong, lawyers are going to test it. Outcomes aren't always what we'd like, esp as parties are doing the financial calculus, but hey, it ain't going away. Our cars don't tend to rollover. They have a great rollover rating. Just part of the nature of this type of car. But. Unlike non verts, your last statement's a bit off. It's far more significant if we roll. We'll need a good chunk of bad luck, and it'll be rare, but it _can_ happen. If it does... ug.

One test question. If we had a factory option for a moderate amount of $, what % of buyers would opt for one? I'd bet the vast minority.

Ok, brb. Next rambling chunk after some grub.

Actually after reading your post I guess I shoulda responded directly to RPI's thread starter, which was really the target of my comments.. Therefore it is not i that has anything to do with or not as far as "track days" since I do not care for "tracking' and/or racing really...

[shabby]

I hope theres a recall on this and gm decides to install free scca approved roll bars for everybody

[BigSkyCountry]

Expecting roll-over protection in a ragtop kind of defeats the purpose, eh? Ray