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Old 06-26-2008, 06:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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GG GM. Way to go.

I've always been annoyed at the fact that we dont have roll over protection.....

"MARSHALL -- While driving a 2007 Saturn Sky, Stephen Slider lost control and hit a concrete culvert, causing the vehicle to roll over.

Although Slider maintains he was wearing his seatbelt at the time of the accident, he states he was injured due to the defective nature of the vehicle. Slider states that the luxury sports car was not "reasonably crashworthy, and was not reasonably fit for unintended, but clearly foreseeable, accidents."

Slider and his wife filed a motor vehicle product liability suit against the car's manufacturer, General Motors Corporation, on June20 in the Marshall Division of the Eastern District of Texas.

The complaint alleges the vehicle was defective due to failure to provide adequate occupant protection in a rollover, insufficient structural integrity of roof rail, failure of the vehicle's rollover protection mounts, lack of pop up roll bars or pop up seats, failure to reinforce high back seats to withstand rollover forces, and failure of the defendant to conduct drop tests or rollover testing.

Further, the plaintiff alleges the vehicle was defective by violating the principles of crashworthiness by the destruction of the survival space and failure of survival space rendering other safety systems ineffective.

The suit seeks more than $75,000 in damages for medical expenses, pain and suffering, extreme emotional distress, mental anguish, impairment, disfigurement, lost wages, diminished earning capacity, interference with daily activities, and reduced capacity to enjoy life.

Slider's wife is seeking additional damages for loss of consortium.

Dallas attorneys E. Todd Tracy and Andrew Counts of the Tracy Firm and Tyler attorneys Matthew B. Flanery and Darren Grant of the Grant and Flanery PC are representing the plaintiffs.

Judge T. John Ward will preside over the litigation.

Case No 2:2008cv00248"


Southeast Texas Record | GM sued after sports car rollover

I've tried to install a roll over bar/hoop but the car was just not made to accept one. Here is a picture of whats under the covers when I was checking for points where I can install roll over protection.


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It calls a Sky a "luxury sports car"
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Old 06-26-2008, 06:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It calls a Sky a "luxury sports car"
lmao yeah right. All the plastic inside makes it ultra luxurious. Hell, GM cant even decide which way to put the power lock switch/button. Some are "down" to unlock and some are "up" to unlock.
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....Stephen Slider lost control and hit a concrete culvert, causing the vehicle to roll over.
This is NOT GM's fault... look at this guy's name....With a name like that ya have to expect that it was just a matter of time... regardless of the car.


In other news... The first "Name Based" Recall has just been announced. Drivers Ulf D. Bridge, N. A. Wreck, and U. R. Mangled have been asked to return their cars for a full refund.

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This is NOT GM's fault... look at this guy's name....With a name like that ya have to expect that it was just a matter of time... regardless of the car.


In other news... The first "Name Based" Recall has just been announced. Drivers Ulf D. Bridge, N. A. Wreck, and U. R. Mangled have been asked to return their cars for a full refund.

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Yes, the driver caused the accident. Its dissappointing that the car that is made for spirited driving has no roll over protection.
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There should definitely be a little roll over protection, but in an inexpensive car it's hard to fault them too much. Also don't feel a bit sorry for Mr. Slider, it was his own fault...
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There should definitely be a little roll over protection, but in an inexpensive car it's hard to fault them too much. Also don't feel a bit sorry for Mr. Slider, it was his own fault...
I paid $35k for my sky. There are several cars under or around the same price range that offer roll over protection. Hell, look how many miatas can go to open track day, where we get turned down because we cant put roll bars in our cars.
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The suit seeks more than $75,000 in damages
Is $75K a break point for the type of litigation or jurisdiction? "More than..." doesn't say much. More than $75K could be $100K, $1Million, $1Billion.
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These roadsters were not designed for "track days", or 'racing', or in proper starts (burning rubber), or any other illegal activities. If driven properly, you don't need "roll over" protection, especially with a "mature" or a "professional" driver behind the wheel. If you know your going to be doing/going or driving crazy, or at high speeds or doing crazy eights, donuts etc etc, YOU the DRIVER take all the risks AND responsibility for doing, making, or exceeding the design parameters of the car for the purpose it was designed for. You wanna change That? then modify it to keep your azz safe... You wanna stay on 4 wheels/ then drive like a normal person, and that is, no crazy maneuvers and within the LEGAL SPEED LIMITS!!! Idiots want to take a "street car" and drive like an azz, then flips the car and wants to sue the manufacturer, give me a break.. Sorta like the same defense that Hulk Hogans dumb kid did, crippled his friend, he is in jail and no remorse.. just wants "daddy" to get his azz outa jail....please...

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yeah... So anyway, I will look into a roll bar with or without a functioning top in the future.
I'm missing way too many track days.

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sounds like someone skipped Performance driving class )

Fact = sky doesnt offer rollover protection

Fact = A good driver doesnt need roll-over protection (or esc bogie :P)
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These roadsters were not designed for "track days", or 'racing', or in proper starts (burning rubber), or any other illegal activities. If driven properly, you don't need "roll over" protection, especially with a "mature" or a "professional" driver behind the wheel. If you know your going to be doing/going or driving crazy, or at high speeds or doing crazy eights, donuts etc etc, YOU the DRIVER take all the risks AND responsibility for doing, making, or exceeding the design parameters of the car for the purpose it was designed for. You wanna change That? then modify it to keep your azz safe... You wanna stay on 4 wheels/ then drive like a normal person, and that is, no crazy maneuvers and within the LEGAL SPEED LIMITS!!! Idiots want to take a "street car" and drive like an azz, then flips the car and wants to sue the manufacturer, give me a break.. Sorta like the same defense that Hulk Hogans dumb kid did, crippled his friend, he is in jail and no remorse.. just wants "daddy" to get his azz outa jail....please...

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so what if someone clearly in the wrong hits the side of your car in such a way that it causes you to flip, what then? its not always the driver, im sure it was in this case, but its not always so. theres no excuse why they cant/didnt put a roll over bar in, kinda stupid if you ask me. i dont plan on going to the track or putting my car in a situation where it can roll over so im not too worried about it but the extra protection would be a nice ease of mind.
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so what if someone clearly in the wrong hits the side of your car in such a way that it causes you to flip, what then? its not always the driver, im sure it was in this case, but its not always so. theres no excuse why they cant/didnt put a roll over bar in, kinda stupid if you ask me. i dont plan on going to the track or putting my car in a situation where it can roll over so im not too worried about it but the extra protection would be a nice ease of mind.
Indeed, but that can happen with ANY CAR or VEHICLE.. Are you now suggesting that ALL vehicles be equipped with roll bars?? I'm for that for sure...Make me safer that my daughters, and wife are fully safe, as your important ones.. However, if you think "logically", you take a chance every day when you walk out your front..There are NO guarantees, you will be back that night...Unless you have a magic pill??? Well?? do ya???
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