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E15 and E85 Gasoline blends are extremely harmful to your car's fuel system don't use it, or it could end up costing you thousands. Many major car manufacturers will not honor warranties if you do!
Watch video about E15 gas if you have a car older than 2012

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I have always hated this mixing BS, I want pure dino fuel without that added crap corn mash..

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Excuse me, could somebody tell me what E15 and E85 Gasoline please.

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Excuse me, could somebody tell me what E15 and E85 Gasoline please.
Refers to the percentage of Ethanol ('drinking' alcohol) in the gas. E15 = 15% alcohol to 85% gasoline. E85 is the other way around.

It's a stupid method instigated in the US where farmers are subsidized to grow corn to be fermented into alcohol and then added to gas. Supposed to be a means of "renewable energy" to reduce foreign oil dependance, but in fact corn is a lousy way to produce ethanol and the production (depending on who you believe) takes about the same amount of non-renewable resources to produce as it supplants in the fuel system (some say it's actually overall negative). Plus it raises the price of all the crops the farmers are NOT growing to make the subsidized money on corn.

The ethanol alcohol does, however, raise octane levels of the gas, but at the expense of overall energy efficiency and thus mileage in your car.

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Thanks your explanation! Last year I visited Las vegas. I rent a car (2011 Chevy Malibu that`s nice car)from AVIS when I visited LAX.
I stopped gas stand and re-fill gas 2 or 3times during tore.
I did not notice E-15 or E-85 at gas station pumps.
What kind cars use this mixing gas? SKY owners manual dose not let us re-fill
only premium gas only.
If our SKY charge E-15 or E-85, what happen to SKY`s engine?
I was internet surf and find some information about E-15, but any auto maker did not recommend use this gas.(Especially Japanese car makers)
I understand your government policy, but I cannot understand the car dose the full up people in the fullness.

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E10 is a standard mix (in any grade) in most states and enforced in the winter months in many/most(/all?) northern states for smog reduction. So for most of us, E10 is not a choice.

E15 and E85 is by choice, with E85, certainly, being for "Flex-fuel" cars only.

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My whole problem with this farce of using alcohol in fuel was suppose to bring fuel costs down, that is one of the biggest scam the government has put on the people... Every day we hear about huge amount of crude oil still in the ground.. I want pure gas back, I want the option to pay more for it if i have to.

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Are you no choice? You must charge mixing fuel, Oh my! I do not know about E-15 or another mixing fuel, even if you use E-15 nevertheless your car mileage down, this policy dose not make sense.
It becomes no dice that even with GM produced good fuel economy car.
I am very satisfy SKY fuel economy. Transam too.

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Are you no choice? You muse charge mixing fuel, Oh my! I do not know about E-15 or another mixing fuel, even if you use E-15 nevertheless your car mileage down, this policy dose not make sense.
It becomes no dice that even with GM produced good fuel economy car.
I am very satisfy SKY fuel economy. Transam too.
That's right, we have no choice in most states.. Our gas has "up to 10% alcohol" mixed in, and your right, ever since that has happened here in Florida, gas mileage has gone down.. I use to get about 24-26 MPG with real gas, with the chit they sell now it has gone down to about 20 to 22 MPG..

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That's right, we have no choice in most states.. Our gas has "up to 10% alcohol" mixed in, and your right, ever since that has happened here in Florida, gas mileage has gone down.. I use to get about 24-26 MPG with real gas, with the chit they sell now it has gone down to about 20 to 22 MPG..
It`s too much trouble, by the way, this is my image that Holly cab or TBI injection work well supply mixing gas to old engine. But SKY injection system is direct injection with so much height pressure inject power.
This system occur some individual issue. the carbon accumulate in intake port, valves etc. So I put in GA01 additive each 5000Km.
If mixing gas decrease engine firing power, I guess carbon issue is become more and more.
If correct my opinion, why GM and another auto maker still keep silent?
I pray nothing happen to all American automobile.
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If correct my opinion, why GM and another auto maker still keep silent?
Maybe because about 1/3 of GM's stock is held by the Federal Government?

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The biggest problem is the ethanol, it is much more corrosive than gasoline. It ruins your fuel pump and injectors. It will also eat through your fuel lines prematurely.
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I've got gas really bad tonight. Home made chili. Does that count?
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Maybe because about 1/3 of GM's stock is held by the Federal Government?
Oh ya!Unfortunately GM are under control from US governm yet.
You mean GM cannot reject US governm order.
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The biggest problem is the ethanol, it is much more corrosive than gasoline. It ruins your fuel pump and injectors. It will also eat through your fuel lines prematurely.
It's too much trouble! GM cover warranty for you if trouble happen to you?

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I've got gas really bad tonight. Home made chili.Does that count?
Sorry,what mean "home made chili"?

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Sorry,what mean "home made chili"?
Home made chili is a spicy food with beans similar to a soup, but usually thicker. It usually has some kind of ground meat such as beef, turkey, etc.
The beans cause gas in some people - not the kind of gas to use in cars.

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