HELP! Roof issues with my new SKY....

Scott-n-ATL · 01-08-2008, 01:06 PM

OK. I LOVE this car. BUT it seems that half the time I drop the top and then put it back up when finished, one of the windows has wind noise and is not connecting right. When you open or and shut the doors the fabric gets under the glass. What in the world can I do to make sure it is always even when I close the roof?

onespoiledbrat · 01-08-2008, 01:12 PM

Had the same problem with the fabric getting caught behind the windows when closing the doors with the roof up. We took Chili in just yesterday to our dealer and the tech spent about 1 hr readjusting the windows and the problem was solved

. Bill

**ceeker** · 01-08-2008, 02:01 PM

There are several post on the forum that cover this.

Here is one:
New Owners!!! Top Alignment / Window Gaskets on the Outside of the Windows

Also just try searching for roof alignment.

Bogie · 01-08-2008, 02:03 PM

Before you take it in, make sure the top is seating properly into the grooves just behine each door. I don't have a pick handy, but if you look just behind each door with top down, you will see a rubber thingy with a hole/groove in it. When you put the top up, make sure it seats into the groove on both sides of the car.

If you still have the problem with everything seated properly, then the windows will need adjustment as brat noted.

Also, always raise and lower the top with the windows down or doors open. The manual says you need 'em lowered to raise it, but doesn't require it when lowering. Do it anyway.

Scott-n-ATL · 01-08-2008, 03:15 PM

Great tips! Appreciate you all!

marlboromike · 01-08-2008, 06:15 PM

you shouldn't have to raise or lower your windows anytime u put your top up or down...I have vin#1414 and if there is something misaligned that is the problem...show me a rag top convertible with no wind noise and I will show u someone deaf in the car.

Bogie · 01-08-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by marlboromike

show me a rag top convertible with no wind noise and I will show u someone deaf in the car.

...or a loud stereo.

eldeeko · 01-08-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by marlboromike

you shouldn't have to raise or lower your windows anytime u put your top up or down...I have vin#1414 and if there is something misaligned that is the problem...show me a rag top convertible with no wind noise and I will show u someone deaf in the car.

I have had no wind noise at all (except with windows open). So I will show you a rag top with no wind noise in Torrance, CA. There are a few of us I believe.

GaryH · 01-08-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eldeeko

I have had no wind noise at all (except with windows open). So I will show you a rag top with no wind noise in Torrance, CA. There are a few of us I believe.

I think I agree with MM on this one also. I'm not sure about the newer
VINs, but with the lower vins like eldeeko's, MMs and mine, I would say that if you can not here the wind noise, you might want to check the batteries in your hearing aid.

**Skip** · 01-08-2008, 10:59 PM

I tant got no wind noise either unless I break wind. And I hear that rite good in my Sky....Skip....

**Celt03** · 01-08-2008, 11:28 PM

Hmm, v-e-r-y i-n-t-e-r-e-s-t-i-n-g...
I do not have any wind noise when I run my '08 RL top up. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised at how quiet it is.
And I can ensure you that my hearing is better than most - which aggravates the heck out of the kids.

eldeeko · 01-08-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GaryH

I think I agree with MM on this one also. I'm not sure about the newer
VINs, but with the lower vins like eldeeko's, MMs and mine, I would say that if you can not here the wind noise, you might want to check the batteries in your hearing aid.

This is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing some of us have quieter tops than others (and my hearing is nearly perfect). I'd almost bet there is no more than 10db difference between (my) soft-top and my sedan. Now at 70-80mph with traffic you are going to get lots of noise from the road and wind. I too agree with Skip - If I can hear gas pass the top is fine.

marlboromike · 01-09-2008, 12:15 AM

Glad to see all the members with the low Vin#s...but if u notice the new rag tops they r putting on the cars...much better quality than ours...better lining also...so if too much wind coming through...it has to be the alignment...and remember these techs have no convertible experience...what u get is EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING at the shop.

JRinKY · 01-13-2008, 11:37 AM

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marlboromike : you shouldn't have to raise or lower your windows anytime u put your top up or down...

Sorry Mike, you are wrong about this one.

The owner's manual states that you should lower the windows before raising the top.

The contact between the windows and the top is a tight sliding fit. Because the top will not be perfectly in position, raising it with the widows up (and the doors closed) can cause pinching of the weatherstrip. This can either damage it or make it more difficult to properly seat the top.

Lowering the top with the windows up creates no such issues.

sbcomposer · 01-13-2008, 10:57 PM

The one severe flaw in the Sky is the top. We're about to have our 2nd replacment top installed. The frame tears the insulation because they were too cheap to place a support...would have cost them another 50 cents per vehicle made to have made it right.

Bogie · 01-14-2008, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marlboromike

you shouldn't have to raise or lower your windows anytime u put your top up or down..

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Originally Posted by JRinKY

Sorry Mike, you are wrong about this one.

The owner's manual states that you should lower the windows before raising the top.

What you should or should not have to do is not the same as what needs to be done.

But you are correct on the "need" to lower the windows to raise the top in order to preserve the integrity of the seal. In fact, I would highly recommend lowering the windows to lower the top as well. The top weathersrtip grips the window. If the windows are fully up when the top is lowered, I've found I have to apply extra force to yank the rubber seals off the glass. Although the weather strips might be designed to tolerate the torsion, I can't help but think that over time it will prematurely wear the strip. When the simple solution is to lower the windows...why not do it?

MidniteBlues · 01-14-2008, 12:16 PM

I agree with the "lower windows" group. I do it for both, putting top UP or Down..Especially when putting it back up. Page 102 doesn't say to lower the windows to put top down. HOWEVER, page 103 certainly says 2. "Make sure the ignition is off, and lower your windows".

MidniteBlues · 01-14-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip

I tant got no wind noise either unless I break wind. And I hear that rite good in my Sky....Skip....

It's not the hearing of breaking wind as much as "the smell afterwards" to offend the other senses...

01-08-2008, 01:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Scott-n-ATL Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10 My Photos: (0)	HELP! Roof issues with my new SKY.... OK. I LOVE this car. BUT it seems that half the time I drop the top and then put it back up when finished, one of the windows has wind noise and is not connecting right. When you open or and shut the doors the fabric gets under the glass. What in the world can I do to make sure it is always even when I close the roof? __________________ BlackSin 2007 SKY Roadster Sinister Black/Tan Top Automatic Tan/Black leather interior DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!

01-08-2008, 01:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
onespoiledbrat Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hesperia,Ca Posts: 55 My Photos: (0)	repaired yesterday Had the same problem with the fabric getting caught behind the windows when closing the doors with the roof up. We took Chili in just yesterday to our dealer and the tech spent about 1 hr readjusting the windows and the problem was solved . Bill __________________ Chili Pepper Red 2.4L Black cloth interior (Desert Rat) Auto trans. LSD Spoiler 6cd premium monsoon 18" Chrome-plated wheels windrestrictor ver2. RPI Stealth Dual Exhaust

01-08-2008, 02:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
ceeker Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 561 My Photos: (16)	There are several post on the forum that cover this. Here is one: New Owners!!! Top Alignment / Window Gaskets on the Outside of the Windows Also just try searching for roof alignment. __________________ Silver/RL 2007 - Black Top - Red/Black Leather 5th Break Light, DeJon CAI, IC Pipes Magnaflow, Opel Badges, tail lights. Hahn Intercooler, Westers Tune

01-08-2008, 02:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Northern, VA Posts: 2,484 My Photos: (0)	Before you take it in, make sure the top is seating properly into the grooves just behine each door. I don't have a pick handy, but if you look just behind each door with top down, you will see a rubber thingy with a hole/groove in it. When you put the top up, make sure it seats into the groove on both sides of the car. If you still have the problem with everything seated properly, then the windows will need adjustment as brat noted. Also, always raise and lower the top with the windows down or doors open. The manual says you need 'em lowered to raise it, but doesn't require it when lowering. Do it anyway. __________________ 2008 Redline Black Onyx Black/Red Leather Monsoon 6 Disc Spoiler French Transmission Born July 2007 Snagged 8/31/07 Belle? That's my car Alizée? That's my avatar Me? Forty something male skydriver

01-08-2008, 03:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Scott-n-ATL Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10 My Photos: (0)	Great tips! Appreciate you all! __________________ BlackSin 2007 SKY Roadster Sinister Black/Tan Top Automatic Tan/Black leather interior DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!

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01-08-2008, 06:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
marlboromike First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Marlboro, NJ Posts: 7,126 My Photos: (6)	you shouldn't have to raise or lower your windows anytime u put your top up or down...I have vin#1414 and if there is something misaligned that is the problem...show me a rag top convertible with no wind noise and I will show u someone deaf in the car.

01-08-2008, 10:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Skip First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: deep in the land of cotton where good times there are not forgotten Posts: 4,736 My Photos: (0)	I tant got no wind noise either unless I break wind. And I hear that rite good in my Sky....Skip.... __________________ Resident Redneck of the forum and Birthday Greeter Keep on the sunny side of life It tant Christmas without Christ.

01-08-2008, 11:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
Celt03 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,574 My Photos: (6)	Hmm, v-e-r-y i-n-t-e-r-e-s-t-i-n-g... I do not have any wind noise when I run my '08 RL top up. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised at how quiet it is. And I can ensure you that my hearing is better than most - which aggravates the heck out of the kids. __________________ "Saffyre" 2008 Midnight Blue RL/Black/Black Leather / 5-spd w/Spoiler Magnaflow 3" Quad tip / Chrome Wheels / On Star / 6 CD XM Monsoon / Splash Guards / GT Antenna / WindRestrictor V2 www.imsaturn.com/profile/Celt

01-09-2008, 12:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
marlboromike First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Marlboro, NJ Posts: 7,126 My Photos: (6)	Glad to see all the members with the low Vin#s...but if u notice the new rag tops they r putting on the cars...much better quality than ours...better lining also...so if too much wind coming through...it has to be the alignment...and remember these techs have no convertible experience...what u get is EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING at the shop.

01-13-2008, 10:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
sbcomposer Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 42 My Photos: (8)	The one severe flaw in the Sky is the top. We're about to have our 2nd replacment top installed. The frame tears the insulation because they were too cheap to place a support...would have cost them another 50 cents per vehicle made to have made it right.

01-14-2008, 12:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
MidniteBlues Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 3,587 My Photos: (0)	I agree with the "lower windows" group. I do it for both, putting top UP or Down..Especially when putting it back up. Page 102 doesn't say to lower the windows to put top down. HOWEVER, page 103 certainly says *2. "Make sure the ignition is off, and lower your windows".* __________________ 2.4L Midnight Blue, Premium Trim Package, Automatic, Monsoon Pre Audio 1-CD, Std Rear. GMPP CAI, 3M Clear Bra, Splash Guards, Black Top, Fiam Frwy Blastr 2-horn Opel Ant - WR V2 - Flux Capacitor -

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