I overheated today....

[Sky_Pilot]

So the damage was the fan motor.... a whopping $716 to fix; $400 for the part and 3 hours of labor. And dealers wonder why we don't go to them for service.

[newmsy1]

Originally Posted by Sky_Pilot

So the damage was the fan motor.... a whopping $716 to fix; $400 for the part and 3 hours of labor. And dealers wonder why we don't go to them for service.

It seems like this is starting to be the norm for this car in the dealer service department. Any repair for parts plus labor you can't get out for anything less than a $600 or $700 bill. The dealers are seeming to charge high prices for parts for these cars.

[TomatoSoup]

List Price for the fan assembly at Nalley is $388 M ENGINE COOLANT FAN (LNF/2.0X);. Fits: Sky, Solstice | Nalley Buick GMC Brunswick, but you should be able to get it for ~$100 off this at Crate Engine Depot or similar.

EDIT: Ignore this line (wrong part): Price for a Dorman aftermarket replacement at Rock Auto is $62 (yes, sixty two!) More Information for DORMAN 620953

Three hours for labor seems an awful lot for this too. You could always do it yourself... see Cooling fan broke - Pontiac Solstice Forum and scroll down for a how-to.

(Also see: Another Overheating At Idle Thread (Long Post))

[GS Stage 1]

What do I win? Just knew it was the fan/module assembly.
Seems to be a fairly common failure point on our cars.



Hey TS: When you looked up that aftermarket fan: Did it state that the fan included the appropriate fan control module for our cars?

Hell, for 62 bucks it would almost be worth it just to try.

[TomatoSoup]

Originally Posted by GS Stage 1

Hey TS: When you looked up that aftermarket fan: Did it state that the fan included the appropriate fan control module for our cars?

Hell, for 62 bucks it would almost be worth it just to try.

Sorry, but I very much doubt it. Look at the photo in the link.

BUT, that is a VERY good point! I wonder if this is really the correct replacement given the GM one comes with the controller. Hmmm.

UPDATE: I checked Dorman's site and that part shows it only as a replacement for the 2.4 motor. They don't have one for the 2.0. (Updated earlier post above). So I repeated the search on RockAuto and found this instead http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1381374 for $71 (just a few bucks more than the Dorman). But no manufacturer is listed. Shows as compatible with the GM part number 19130227, but who knows?

[GS Stage 1]

Originally Posted by TomatoSoup

Sorry, but I very much doubt it. Look at the photo in the link.

Yeah, it does look like just a plug and not a plug/module like on the OEM.

But if a person had a good module, one might be able to cannibalize the OEM and splice it onto the cheap fan. But then the problem becomes if the cheap fan can accept a rheostat style control system (continuous voltage adjustment for continuous speed adjustment). Would probably create more problems than solve, but an interesting exercise in arm chair engineering.

[Sky_Pilot]

Originally Posted by GS Stage 1

Yeah, it does look like just a plug and not a plug/module like on the OEM.

But if a person had a good module, one might be able to cannibalize the OEM and splice it onto the cheap fan. But then the problem becomes if the cheap fan can accept a rheostat style control system (continuous voltage adjustment for continuous speed adjustment). Would probably create more problems than solve, but an interesting exercise in arm chair engineering.

The description notes some type of module:

SHROUD. Radiator Fan Shroud. .
Stock Code 19130227
Fitment Notes

Your Price $ 388.88
Installation Instructions N/A
Additional Notes
Alternate Stock Code
Product Description Product Application Notes
M ENGINE COOLANT FAN (LNF/2.0X); LNF - ENGINE GAS, 4 CYL, 2.0L, DI, ALUM, DOHC, TURBO, GM;
SHROUD,ENG COOL FAN(INCLS MOTOR, BLADE, SHROUD & MODULE). Required: 01
For: M 2.0(LNF) (2007-2010) (2007 - 2010).

[TomatoSoup]

Originally Posted by Sky_Pilot

The description notes some type of module:

Oh there's no doubt, the OEM one DOES come with the PWM speed controller. It's the Dorman aftermarket one that doesn't - but as I updated, that looks like the one for the 2.4 engine anyway (which doesn't use the PWM controller module).

[Rob the Elder]

Sadly I bought two fan assemblies from Source One back when they had them. Actually they listed the fan assemblies for about $100 and they came with radiators attached.

[Monadzback]

fan. what did i say.

[Sky_Pilot]

Originally Posted by Monadzback

fan. what did i say.

I "thought" you said it was the fan and you were going to come by and help me install it

[lllfly]

And I thought a rad hose was high.
good grief .
LLLFLY

[Sky_Pilot]

Originally Posted by lllfly

And I thought a rad hose was high.
good grief .
LLLFLY

Doesn't matter at a dealer, on cost, you're a cylindrical rod incised with one or more helical or advancing spiral threads!

[Koobie]

Sucks at the steep charges man.

The dealer actually replaced my whole fan shroud/assembly as well...however, they did NOT inform me of the fix and actually billed me for $600 more than we agreed upon. I ended up fighting it and got a free shroud/assembly.

That is cool you got the tune on the laptop. I need to get exhaust for the car then the tune again. After that I'm about done with the car mod wise (well maybe some s/s brake lines).

[Sky_Pilot]

The final insult, $768.40. Tech said fan motor had short and thus stopped working.

$416.10 for the fan assembly
$319.01 for associated labor ($100/hr)
$ 33.29 for Gov. Brown
$768.40 total gouge

Why do I feel I just dropped my soap on an episode of "OZ"?

I don't get it.

On edit: They said they found codes P0480 and P0691 stored in the PCM.