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Old 02-15-2013, 12:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Whats the difference between the 2 stage kits on crate engine depot besides the price tag? The hp and tq numbers are the same
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No idea. There is only one that is applicable to the sky. Probably different vehicle applications?
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Welcome Peoria Sky

I can't answer your question but I'm from Springfield just down the road. Maybe we'll run into along the way.
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Like miller said. Perhaps if you post the links to the two kits, we could tell you.
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19212670 Cobalt, Solstice, HHR Stage Kit 19212670

Cobalt, Solstice, HHR Stage Kit 19212670HK

Looks like one just comes with a plug and play harness, I'd go with that one plus it's cheaper haha.
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Ahh, now I understand. Yes go with the "HK" one. Far easier and safer to install (and extremely puzzling that it's the cheaper!).

The non-HK one is the original GM kit. The "HK" one is CED's modded version with the connector adapters.

NOTE: you will still have to go to a dealer to have the ECM programmed with the coded program certificate that comes with the kit (that part is NOT DIY!). They will charge you for that programming, but shouldn't be more than an hour's labor (if it is, move on to a different dealer - so get estimates first )

This presupposes you put in the TMAP sensors yourself. Easy job, but you must drive VERY carefully until the ECM is programmed. NO BOOST. If you get into boost, you will throw codes and go into limp mode, as the new TMAP sensor parameters don't match the old ECM program.
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you need hptuners if you want to do the 3bar swap the right way.
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