R/L smokes when stepping on it while its cold

ku4zs · 11-06-2007, 06:19 PM

Is this normal? I notice when I start up and while the engine is still cold, if I step on it, it smokes a bit (more than just a little, but not a whole lot). Local dealer said that was normal since the cat convertor is cold. I just want second (and third and fourth... etc) opinions.

Blue Sky Redline · 11-06-2007, 06:35 PM

normal ? I don't think so. but if the service guy(gal) says it's so...

DirtyMike · 11-06-2007, 06:54 PM

might want to call up an other service dept in you area and get that second opinion, never hurts to ask

lostcause · 11-06-2007, 10:36 PM

In my experience a dealer will say that pretty much anything short of flames coming out of the car is normal.

cerberus · 11-06-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lostcause

In my experience a dealer will say that pretty much anything short of flames coming out of the car is normal.

Depends on the dealer. There are some very good ones out there. If you're dealing with one that sounds funny, call around. It's all warranty work anyway.

lostcause · 11-06-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cerberus

Depends on the dealer. There are some very good ones out there. If you're dealing with one that sounds funny, call around. It's all warranty work anyway.

Yeah, I was exaggerating slightly but in the past, I have had dealers tell me that something I knew was a problem was normal.

**Skip** · 11-06-2007, 11:17 PM

Are you sure it is smoke and not condensation? All engines when cold will produce condensation until the exhaust system is up to temperature...Skip...

BlueSkyRL · 11-06-2007, 11:31 PM

The RL's always smoke when you step on them...The Classic/base should not

DirtyMike · 11-06-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lostcause

Yeah, I was exaggerating slightly but in the past, I have had dealers tell me that something I knew was a problem was normal.

me too, most are kinda shady, at least down here.

ku4zs · 11-06-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip

Are you sure it is smoke and not condensation? All engines when cold will produce condensation until the exhaust system is up to temperature...Skip...

Well I cannot tell for sure. It does not look white, looks darker, so I assumed it was smoke. It only does it if I build up pretty good boost, above 10 psi. Less than that and it is fine, and once it warms up it stops completely.

**Skip** · 11-06-2007, 11:56 PM

When cold the rings and piston aren't exactly tight, and that would cause some smoke. It is just like Skip trying to get outa bed in the morning, I am ready but creaking until the old blood starts to flow and I get warmed up. Now that you have that mental image crank up your bad boy tomorrow...Hehehe...Skip...

Gerry · 11-07-2007, 08:24 AM

That's the engine running rich while it is in open loop. Takes about 30 seconds for the HO2S to heat up to put the engine in closed loop. You didn't give many details, so I can only guess.

If it was oil, the smoke would be bluish white.

**RedHeaded RedLine** · 11-07-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ku4zs

Is this normal? I notice when I start up and while the engine is still cold, if I step on it, it smokes a bit (more than just a little, but not a whole lot). Local dealer said that was normal since the cat convertor is cold. I just want second (and third and fourth... etc) opinions.

What does it smell like? -J

kwayne · 11-07-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RedHeaded RedLine

What does it smell like? -J

I love the smell of clutch dust in the morning!!

SilverRedLineSky · 11-07-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ku4zs

Is this normal? I notice when I start up and while the engine is still cold, if I step on it, it smokes a bit (more than just a little, but not a whole lot). Local dealer said that was normal since the cat convertor is cold. I just want second (and third and fourth... etc) opinions.

Our RL does that, but not all the time, it clears right away. Just a little too much fuel at start up and the system is working it out. I consider it normal.

What Gerry said

boostednlinefor · 11-10-2007, 09:30 PM

So in conclusion:

white = condensation/water/coolant

bluish tint = oil

black = running rich (could also be excessive carbon build-up being blown out for a moment if you haven't gotten on it recently)

SkyBaby · 11-10-2007, 11:03 PM

I would take it in for a quick check... just to make sure..... SkyBaby

2thDr · 11-11-2007, 11:47 PM

It smokes when you step on it?

Well............that would be the tires my friend. :-)

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Skip First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: deep in the land of cotton where good times there are not forgotten Posts: 4,736 My Photos: (0)	Are you sure it is smoke and not condensation? All engines when cold will produce condensation until the exhaust system is up to temperature...Skip... __________________ Resident Redneck of the forum and Birthday Greeter Keep on the sunny side of life It tant Christmas without Christ.

11-06-2007, 11:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
Skip First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: deep in the land of cotton where good times there are not forgotten Posts: 4,736 My Photos: (0)	When cold the rings and piston aren't exactly tight, and that would cause some smoke. It is just like Skip trying to get outa bed in the morning, I am ready but creaking until the old blood starts to flow and I get warmed up. Now that you have that mental image crank up your bad boy tomorrow...Hehehe...Skip... __________________ Resident Redneck of the forum and Birthday Greeter Keep on the sunny side of life It tant Christmas without Christ.

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11-06-2007, 10:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
lostcause Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,251 My Photos: (0)	In my experience a dealer will say that pretty much anything short of flames coming out of the car is normal.

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BlueSkyRL First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Up North! Posts: 975 My Photos: (0)	The RL's always smoke when you step on them...The Classic/base should not

11-07-2007, 08:24 AM	#12 (permalink)
Gerry Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 568 My Photos: (0)	That's the engine running rich while it is in open loop. Takes about 30 seconds for the HO2S to heat up to put the engine in closed loop. You didn't give many details, so I can only guess. If it was oil, the smoke would be bluish white. __________________ '08 Silver Pearl Red Line delivered 5 Oct '07 Three pedals Red leather Monsoon Chrome rims Spoiler

11-10-2007, 09:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
boostednlinefor Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 59 My Photos: (0)	So in conclusion: white = condensation/water/coolant bluish tint = oil black = running rich (could also be excessive carbon build-up being blown out for a moment if you haven't gotten on it recently)

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2thDr Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21 My Photos: (0)	It smokes when you step on it? Well............that would be the tires my friend. :-)

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