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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 11-29-2016, 07:32 PM Thread Starter
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Sky rear ended crash

So the DARK day has finally come and just last Friday I was at a dead stop waiting to turn onto adjacent road when BAM! A four door pick-up truck rams right into the rear of my car doing 55mph without even hitting the breaks. The man who hit me was slightly drunk and his truck is totaled. My insurances adjuster is coming out to look at my car but I wanted to see what everyone here thinks about the situation. I figure that the insurance company will not value the sky as we sky owners do. I’m not sure if it will be totaled but I plan to fight them totaling the car with everything I can. Here are some pictures, what do you think, how bad does it look? Note that I did add the Magnaflow 16664 quad exhaust to the car as well as the GMPP CAI.
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I will be surprised if it is not totaled. The deck lid and all supporting structure is gone along with the tail light. The right quarter is shoved forward into the door. With the book value of the car versus the cost of the needed repairs it doesn't look good. Hope you can convince them otherwise.
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Ouch. So sorry to see this. It's a 2.4, right? It looks like the frame MIGHT have been damaged in this just from the way the trunk looks. If you're lucky it isn't horrible and can be repaired. Bumper cover is done though. That and paint may be considerable. Any other body panels out of adjustment further forward? Quarter panels, doors, etc?


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Im amazed at how good the car looks compared to the Truck. But as pointed out, Right 1/4 panel is pushed into passenger door. Did you try open that door? Shall be interesting to see what you can do. Really goining to depend on value of car (how may miles) and what damage is hidden. Was the top up or down? If down (which I assume it was from the pics) I would say your going to need a new top.

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It does not take much of hit in the rear to total these cars. I agree with Hoosier, it is gone. Sorry to hear. These things are going away real fast. Good luck on the payoff and finding another if you decide to.
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Naw that will buffer out. Sorry to hear that. 55 and drunk and totaled his truck and your car( maybe ). Hard to tell at this point. From the photos, the guys might be right here IF the frame is bent, she might be done. Good body shop might be able to, but then again it will never ever be the same. Cost and time, plus PITA paper work. Now the question is did he have insurance? F*ck him and the horse err truck he rode into town on. His insurance company will not like you!

Anytime we lose another one, it is more than just a punch in the gut feeling. Like you lost your best friend, an old dog or dear ole dad's gold watch. YOU survived the impact. Your safe and outside of the "neck injury" from the whiplash effect, you are willing to settle out of court on a full replacement, IF they can find you one? Otherwise give them your lawyer's card, tell them we will see you in court. See what they say to that? Tough little car, send the photos to GM tell thanks to the designers and engineers of the Kappa for saving your life.

We all get that feeling when our baby has been hurt, no matter the make or model. Add in the fact of rarity of the Kappa and the heartache increases ten fold. From the minor fender bender in the parking lot, to getting your ass run into from behind at 55, ( not that I would know anything about that, don't ask ) it will always hurt more than the insurance adjuster knows. He/she will just be doing their job, along company guidelines, remember that. I would wander on over to the threads from ChopTop on low mileage/low price SKY's near your area. Never hurts to look see what is out there, if your considering replacement of the SKY? Have that page up on your laptop, on your car, when the insurance adjuster shows up. Here this one will do, right down the road from my house, sort of thing. If they are smart, he/she will know your not F'eff around here. Your lawyer can take care of the rest for you. You " neck injury " just disappeared, when the 6 figure check arrives!

Side note: Personal experience from along time ago, me and two friends, were driving in D.C. of all places. I was going to check out the location of a new job I just got hired too, when sitting still, making a left turn wham.. slammed from behind by a Ford Galaxy 500 made of steel, not paper thin fiberglass that sent the 3 of us to hospital. Buddies had a dislocated shoulder, one a broken nose, and me a neck injury. Totaled my car... a Pinto of all things. The fireman said you guys were lucky this thing didn't blow up. Comforting thought how nice. No damage what so ever to the Ford. That's life and I am alive to tell you this. Your life is worth more than any car, yes even the Kappa. We got our medical expenses taken care of, I got the replacement check for the car with in a week, bought the Challenger RT and was back on the road in less than a month. It is what it is, and yes you do have to deal with it, but your alive to be able to make another purchase of a Kappa, and be on your way in life again. Next time maybe you are not so lucky. Thanks GM for the tough little SOB of the Kappa.

Glad your ok and keep us all up to date on the results. Now if that elusive 2010 model is out there somewhere, you just never know. Like Wayne from CCC says, it's all about the chase. Also if the prep is locked up, he not going to be driving anytime soon. Maybe never which is a good thing. I would take a plasma torch, and just cutting the steering shaft right on off anything else this fool has. Drive that mofo, if you can? Be lucky I was in such a good mood, not to have used the plasma torch on your wrists!


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So it was a Honda that hit you? It's a stretch to call it a pickup truck..... I was thinking a big full size four-door pickup. Sorry to see that. I'm surprised you didn't have more damage either.
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Sorry to see that. Not much damage for a 55 mph hit. I was hit from behind at a slower speed and pushed into the vehicle in front of me a few years ago. The car wasn't totaled, but they were worth more then. A good body shop had me back on the road in 22 days. Here's a link:

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I know I piss and moan about the air bag system, but I have looked at lot of these thing wrecked. The cabin on these things seems to be incredibly strong. As long as it does not flip, you have a great chance of survival in any crash it appears. Great little cars. Just stay way from pickups on 40's and your good!!

Yea Bolts, it does not take much to total them anymore. The parts are so expensive it is crazy, and there aren't a lot of them to buy.

I would guess we lose a minimum of 500 a year from looking a the salvage sites I check, and that is not the ones that just get to dinged up to drive, did not have insurance. Sad and very sad days are coming.
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Hi, I first off want to take a minute to thank everyone for the support and comments to me and for the situation. This is one thing I love about skyroadster.com is that everyone here seems to stick together and stand for one another! OK so here’s the deal. The adjuster came out today(I have state farm but the guy who hit me has progressive, HE will be paying for the damages). So I told the adjuster right off the bat that I will do whatever it takes to keep this car from being totaled. I was all worked up and ready to fight, even to the point of telling the insurance to screw off and that I was keeping the car even if it was totaled. Anyway, the car is a 2007 and has about 70,000 miles on it. When I was hit the top was down and as many of you said, yes this car can take one heck of a punch. Even with the top down and with it being such a small car vs a speeding truck it still held out strong and I was not harmed too badly(I have back and neck pains but my lovely attorney is taking care of me $$$$$$!!!!) Anyway on to the car; Well after adding everything up and looking though all the damage….the car is NOT TOTALED! It turns out that there’s about $8000 of damage including approximately 70 hours of labor to fix it, BUT IM KEEPING MY CAR!!!! Yes sir my Sky even with that much cost is only at 70% of totaling which according to the insurance is not enough percentage to total it! The top remarkably was not even damaged at all and after some straitening of the rest of the car things will be good as new. There doesn’t appear to be any frame damage since I was in neutral when I was hit the car just rolled forward without anything stopping it. Thank you GM for making one hell of a car, I love this car and if I get some good money from the lawsuit I intend to do an engine swap for an LS7!
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Well good news is good news,... sort of. 70% damage but not totaled. Odd but a 2007, with 70K @ 70% damage you can't make these things up.

When I was hit the top was down. The top remarkably was not even damaged at all:

The Top survived. Amazed at that fact. Big $$$$ had that taken a sh*t. Could have been 3000.00 + for a new frame and canvas replacement. A plus for you.



There doesn’t appear to be any frame damage :

We will see after the body shop gets a " better " look at the frame ? That's what the insurance guys says from your driveway, now the body guy might have a difference of opinion with the insurance guy after a look see. Be prepared for change to the estimate IF that fact is true. A plus for you maybe.









It turns out that there’s about $8000 of damage including approximately 70 hours of labor to fix it, BUT...after some straitening of the rest of the car things will be good as new:


I don't know all about that. Maybe... but it will never be the same as new. I am not up on the current market value of a 2007 with 70K ( blue/black book ) and with $8000 damage to it, I would be optimistic in my guess as to your opinion on that thought. Don't get your hopes up just yet. Great that you get to keep your car, but then again... maybe not. Be prepared for a let down IF the body guy say the frame is gone, then the car is gone too. It is going to be in the body shop for a long time. A month maybe, could be longer. IF this is repaired, don't sign off on it just to get your car back quick. Lot of damage be sure your satisfied and it's safe first.




but my lovely attorney is taking care of me $$$$$$!!!!) :

Yes I hear many attorney's are lovely people! With neck/back injury they just don't go away. You could have them the rest of your life. Ask me how I know this. Still get a pain in my shoulder blade/neck from my accident, and that was 25 years ago. Ok so I see your in Fla. Warm sun, nice beach chair, adult beverage, prescription pain meds at the ready, your phone rings... it's your attorney. Why yes I am home in bed suffering a lot, what do you got for me? The check is on the way, why that is good news, I could get use to this beach thing!!!


Replacement/rental car while yours is in the shop:

No no not that Toyota... more like an Audi S6 RS! One can dream.




Thank you GM for making one hell of a car, I love this car:

They have no clue, unless you tell them why. Yes we all love this thing, but GM has moved on from the brand and the model. Thank Bob Lutz and his boys, they know what your talking about.





IF I get some good money from the lawsuit I intend to do an engine swap for an LS7! :

There you go, I like your thinking on this!


Don't be too quick on anything at this point. Your injuries take time to heal. Your car will take time. Your on the beach, waiting on your attorney call and that takes time too. All of this can change at the drop of a hat. You have been warned, not that I would know anything about waiting for my injuries to heal, they haven't completely, the endless calls to the body shop asking about it's progress, medical bills piling up, bank account going down....BUT wait if you order right now we will double your offer...

I am good with the beach thing, the adult beverages, pain meds and my cell phone.... OH look is that "my " attorney walking down this beach in a non business suit attire...the sage of the rear end collision continues.


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Glad it looks like the prognosis is positive!


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Thanks for fighting for the car. I have State Farm on all my vehicles other than the Mallett. They have been a great company to work with.

Sure looked like a lot more structural damage with the quarter up against the door. Most likely went above the frame a little.

Very happy you are not hurt badly and that you saved this car. I bought a totaled Sky 2 years ago, front end hit. Nothing structural, but hood, fenders, front bumper and bracing were all toast. We fixed it up and it drives better than my unwrecked half the mileage garage princess.

I am trying to save a flooded coupe, if they ever release it. Visit the body shop, every couple of days if possible. I think you get a better job, and they realize the car is important to you.
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