the true opel GT conversion and grille

mos119 · 03-08-2008, 04:16 AM

ALot of people on these forums talk about how converted their sky to an opel gt. Other than the obvious badges, taillights, and reverse light...
what r the other differeances???
I sat in an opel gt and a car show in bologna, Italy and i felt like a was in my car in the states. everything was the same!!
what changes have to be made for me to say i drive an opel and not a saturn?(even tho i love saturn...hhaha)

also...i found an opel gt grille.....preferably id like a custom black grill(no chrome) but i cant seem to find one or have an idea about making one myself without it looking "make-shift". any1 have any suggestions???

thanks,
matt

doc-o-pharm · 03-08-2008, 06:56 PM

So far as I know, no one is making a black grill for us. I had to improvise until then and modify the stock one.

I'm waiting on this one....they say it should be available within 4-6 months.:

german gt · 03-08-2008, 08:16 PM

What about this one?

Its from irmscher...

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mos119 · 03-08-2008, 10:05 PM

what did you do with that black grille? what is it made from? and how did you mold it?

BlueSkyRL · 03-08-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by doc-o-pharm

So far as I know, no one is making a black grill for us. I had to improvise until then and modify the stock one.

I'm waiting on this one....they say it should be available within 4-6 months.:

I have seen a lot of photo shop pics and other peoples mods, but the front end on the silver SKY here is IMO the best I've seen. Someone is actually going to make it???

doc-o-pharm · 03-08-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyRL

I have seen a lot of photo shop pics and other peoples mods, but the front end on the silver SKY here is IMO the best I've seen. Someone is actually going to make it???

So they say. I emailed them about it a month or so ago and they are saying 4-6 months....we'll see.

mos119 · 03-09-2008, 01:49 AM

I sat in an opel gt and a car show and i felt like a was in my car in the states. everything was the same!!
what changes have to be made for me to say i drive an opel gt....is it all just cosmetic?

TBlueMax · 03-09-2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mos119

I sat in an opel gt and a car show and i felt like a was in my car in the states. everything was the same!!
what changes have to be made for me to say i drive an opel gt....is it all just cosmetic?

From what I understand, the Opel GT is just a Sky RL with the [base] Sky headlamps, different grille bar and badges [Blitz], and different tail and reverse lights.

Not sure about the interior (other than the Blitz logo insert on the steering wheel).

The Opel GT rolls off the same assembly line as the Sky. Perhaps if you could find a line worker, they may be able to tell you if there are other ingredients that differentiate it from the Sky. Not sure if anyone on the forum owns one of each to compare.

xxdjfate76xx · 03-09-2008, 05:49 PM

were can i get the rear bumber and steering wheel emblems??? From what i understand the front bumper is a part that can be ordered from GM..

OPEL-GT · 03-09-2008, 05:54 PM

there are a number of differences.. from the RL and the Opel GT...a lot of them are hardly noticeable....

**JohnD** · 03-09-2008, 06:04 PM

I put the Opel GT grill on SPIRIT, as a tribute to two original Opel GTs that I owned in the '70s. To make it fit, I had to take an X-Acto knife and carve away part of the molded rubber bumper! (The SKY has a raised "cube" that fits behind the Saturn emblem that is incompatible with the Opel GT grill.)

When I thought about it, I figured that either they had to hack away that part on all Opel GTs coming down the line to mount the Opel GT grill, or they had to mold a totally separate rubber front end. Of course, the latter is true... They had to mold a separate front bumper because the Opel GT does not have the amber side marker lights that the SKY does.

The rear rubber is different, too. The license plate area is wider, and the Opel lightning bolt sits flush, whereas the Saturn emblem sits in a raised square. If you attempt to remove the rear Saturn emblem the raised square will remain, conflicting with the mounting of the Opel logo in the back.

So, while you might think that you could just peel off a couple of shiny bits and stick on something new - in reality you would have to replace the complete rubber front and rear bumpers to get a true "Opel GT impostor." To do it really right you would need a new steer wheel hub, emblems on the rims, hood liner, door sil plates, seats, tail lights, reverse backup light... and even a cigarette lighter which I think is standard on the Opel GT.

There are indeed lots of little cosmetic differences.

And do be aware that if you want to mount an Opel GT grill on a SKY you will need a knife to carve away part of your rubber bumper to make it fit!

eastonhockey74 · 03-09-2008, 07:15 PM

does anyone know where i can get the smaller antenna for the redline?

**ceeker** · 03-09-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eastonhockey74

does anyone know where i can get the smaller antenna for the redline?

GMpartsdirect.com. It was about $20.00 P/N 25805645.

**ceeker** · 03-09-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnD

The rear rubber is different, too. The license plate area is wider, and the Opel lightning bolt sits flush, whereas the Saturn emblem sits in a raised square. If you attempt to remove the rear Saturn emblem the raised square will remain, conflicting with the mounting of the Opel logo in the back.

You can always do this!

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**ceeker** · 03-09-2008, 09:23 PM

More Pictures:

Attachment 22838 Attachment 22839

**JohnD** · 03-09-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ceeker

You can always do this!

I give up - what did you do? Is that the Opel rear bumper?

**stretch246** · 03-09-2008, 10:19 PM

It appears they removed the saturn logo and applied the opel logo looks great.

**ceeker** · 03-10-2008, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnD

I give up - what did you do? Is that the Opel rear bumper?

I removed the rear bumper cover and took it to the body shop to have the hump ground off. Since its a molded piece, they had to fill in the back side with epoxy so it would not be too thin. They painted the whole piece and I reinstalled it.

Not to hard to remove the piece, took about 1.5 hours.

Body shop had it 3 days than right back on.

The main reason for this is I'm going to install a center stripe, and the hump was just not going to work for me!

**JohnD** · 03-10-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ceeker

I removed the rear bumper cover and took it to the body shop to have the hump ground off. Since its a molded piece, they had to fill in the back side with epoxy so it would not be too thin. They painted the whole piece and I reinstalled it.

Not to hard to remove the piece, took about 1.5 hours.

Body shop had it 3 days than right back on.

The main reason for this is I'm going to install a center stripe, and the hump was just not going to work for me!

Okay, that makes sense... I knew it had to be more than just an X-Acto knife like I did up front!

The body shop did an excellent job! Looks great!

xmicro_Redline · 03-10-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ceeker

I removed the rear bumper cover and took it to the body shop to have the hump ground off. Since its a molded piece, they had to fill in the back side with epoxy so it would not be too thin. They painted the whole piece and I reinstalled it.

Not to hard to remove the piece, took about 1.5 hours.

Body shop had it 3 days than right back on.

The main reason for this is I'm going to install a center stripe, and the hump was just not going to work for me!

It's an Opel now! Looking good ceeker

Hey did you redo the interior yet (ie: Steering wheel logo, or seat embroidery)??

03-08-2008, 04:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
mos119 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 90 My Photos: (0)	the true opel GT conversion and grille ALot of people on these forums talk about how converted their sky to an opel gt. Other than the obvious badges, taillights, and reverse light... what r the other differeances??? I sat in an opel gt and a car show in bologna, Italy and i felt like a was in my car in the states. everything was the same!! what changes have to be made for me to say i drive an opel and not a saturn?(even tho i love saturn...hhaha) also...i found an opel gt grille.....preferably id like a custom black grill(no chrome) but i cant seem to find one or have an idea about making one myself without it looking "make-shift". any1 have any suggestions??? thanks, matt

03-08-2008, 06:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
doc-o-pharm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 116 My Photos: (0)	So far as I know, no one is making a black grill for us. I had to improvise until then and modify the stock one. I'm waiting on this one....they say it should be available within 4-6 months.: __________________ '08 Chili RL GMR Tune, Wastegate mod, PAL adaptor, Dejon IC, Custom Grill If the Prodigal Son's a parable, and if Adam and Eve are metaphors, then maybe God is just figure of speech.

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german gt Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 60 My Photos: (0)	What about this one? Its from irmscher... Irmscher Online Home Attached Thumbnails __________________ Opel GT 2.0 Turbo onyx black, leather red/black, 20" Tomason rims, Eibach pro springs, bsr, Windstop, Inox GT-Badges, Wategate/Solenoid mod

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OPEL-GT Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 109 My Photos: (0)	there are a number of differences.. from the RL and the Opel GT...a lot of them are hardly noticeable.... __________________ Saturn Sky RL Triple Black Total Opel GT conversion kit (factory fitted) wind deflector stumpy antenna

03-09-2008, 06:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
JohnD First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,477 My Photos: (73)	I put the Opel GT grill on SPIRIT, as a tribute to two original Opel GTs that I owned in the '70s. To make it fit, I had to take an X-Acto knife and carve away part of the molded rubber bumper! (The SKY has a raised "cube" that fits behind the Saturn emblem that is incompatible with the Opel GT grill.) When I thought about it, I figured that either they had to hack away that part on all Opel GTs coming down the line to mount the Opel GT grill, or they had to mold a totally separate rubber front end. Of course, the latter is true... They had to mold a separate front bumper because the Opel GT does not have the amber side marker lights that the SKY does. The rear rubber is different, too. The license plate area is wider, and the Opel lightning bolt sits flush, whereas the Saturn emblem sits in a raised square. If you attempt to remove the rear Saturn emblem the raised square will remain, conflicting with the mounting of the Opel logo in the back. So, while you might think that you could just peel off a couple of shiny bits and stick on something new - in reality you would have to replace the complete rubber front and rear bumpers to get a true "Opel GT impostor." To do it really right you would need a new steer wheel hub, emblems on the rims, hood liner, door sil plates, seats, tail lights, reverse backup light... and even a cigarette lighter which I think is standard on the Opel GT. There are indeed lots of little cosmetic differences. And do be aware that if you want to mount an Opel GT grill on a SKY you will need a knife to carve away part of your rubber bumper to make it fit! Attached Thumbnails __________________ First:"BABY"* Silver Pearl 9 May 06* Then:"SPIRIT"* Black Onyx Red Line 25 Oct 06* Check out My Photos!

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03-08-2008, 10:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
mos119 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 90 My Photos: (0)	what did you do with that black grille? what is it made from? and how did you mold it?

03-09-2008, 01:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
mos119 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 90 My Photos: (0)	I sat in an opel gt and a car show and i felt like a was in my car in the states. everything was the same!! what changes have to be made for me to say i drive an opel gt....is it all just cosmetic?

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xxdjfate76xx Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 64 My Photos: (0)	were can i get the rear bumber and steering wheel emblems??? From what i understand the front bumper is a part that can be ordered from GM..

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eastonhockey74 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: buffalo Posts: 82 My Photos: (0)	does anyone know where i can get the smaller antenna for the redline?

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