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Old 12-12-2012, 11:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Water drain in the doors

So, I left my car outside on my sloped driveway again last night and it had sprinkled over night. I'm aware that these cars have a design that allows water to fall down the inside of the car door...

This time when I opened the car door I noticed water pouring out of the door and couldn't help but think this was a silly design. On any kind of a slope (forward or backwards) the water pools up in the door until you level out the door by opening it or getting the car on flat ground.

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I know, I know.. easy solution is don't leave the car outside in the Rain. I had the other car in the garage for some maintenance.
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Old 12-12-2012, 11:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That seems like a lot of water to accumulate in the doors. Are you sure you don't have another cause (blocked roof drains etc)? If nothing else, your window seals should not let that much in.
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That seems like a lot of water to accumulate in the doors. Are you sure you don't have another cause (blocked roof drains etc)? If nothing else, your window seals should not let that much in.
The dealership told me it was normal, I asked them to check all the drains, etc and they said it was all fine..

If everyone agrees this is abnormal I will look into it further - honestly I hate leaving her out over night anyway, and I have a rainy day car so I will be avoiding this.
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I dont get anything like this even when washing Punisher or the Dragon. I suspect that Soup is correct and your window seals are not sealing anymore. Or possibly you have some debris under the seal on that is allowing increased water flow into the door.

Have you ever treated the seals to make sure they are staying happy?
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I dont get anything like this even when washing Punisher or the Dragon. I suspect that Soup is correct and your window seals are not sealing anymore. Or possibly you have some debris under the seal on that is allowing increased water flow into the door.

Have you ever treated the seals to make sure they are staying happy?
Nope! I've only owned the car a month and half... The seals all look like they are in great condition, and they seal up tight when the door is closed. I just can't believe that much water pools up in there as well - something has to be funneling it in..
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Never heard of this issue before.

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The dealership told me it was normal...
Normal for water to get into a door panel? At this point wouldn't trust them to work on your car. Better to diagnose and fix the problem yourself because if you go back there... you are asking for trouble.


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Normal for water to get into a door panel? At this point wouldn't trust them to work on your car. Better to diagnose and fix the problem yourself because if you go back there... you are asking for trouble.


Good luck!
Well I had to call BS in my head too when he said that.... I wish I had a dime for every time someone from GM told me "hey it's a convertible" they have inherent issues, or "haven't you owned a convertible before?" I'm going to stop before this turns into another GM bitch fest.

Rob, do you ever wash your car on an incline? I have a pretty significant sloped driveway.
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If everyone agrees this is abnormal I will look into it further - honestly I hate leaving her out over night anyway, and I have a rainy day car so I will be avoiding this.
I parked my car fairly regularly on a sloping driveway in Florida, and I never had water pool in the doors like that. After a wash or rain there would be water drops in the door jam, but nothing significant. I just always made sure I parked nose uphill so I wouldn't getting pooling water against the back part of the top and the trunk lid.


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As long as it drained. It did its job.
Look up underside the doors make sure
all drain holes are open.
No big deal.
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Well I had to call BS in my head too when he said that.... I wish I had a dime for every time someone from GM told me "hey it's a convertible" they have inherent issues, or "haven't you owned a convertible before?" I'm going to stop before this turns into another GM bitch fest.

Rob, do you ever wash your car on an incline? I have a pretty significant sloped driveway.
My driveway slopes too. Will post pic tomorrow
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As long as it drained. It did its job.
Look up underside the doors make sure
all drain holes are open.
No big deal.
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+2 I agree, my car has been in the weather for 6+ years. You would be surprised where water accumulates in these cars.. As long as it "drains" out while on flat surface or when driving, don't worry about it.

HOWEVER, (<<, doncha love that word), I will point out that at this point in time BOTH my door windows no longer go up and down because over time the internal cables connected to the mechanism, guides, motor etc have corroded beyond repair, along with the corrosion, the strands have broken and unraveled thereby gumming up the works... I have to replace the entire assemblies on both doors at the cost to the tune of over $550 + labor...
The only good thing that might come out of all of this is that I will have a pair of spare motors for the windows, used.. because right now, you can't find these motors anywhere.. I am also hoping that when I do take it in for repairs they'll be able to get the parts to fix these things.. otherwise, it just might be the time to get rid of this car..
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Hello everyone,

I did do some research into this and from what I've found, this is a normal product design operation. There is the drain in the door area. If anyone has any concerns that there is an abnormal function, please see the dealership for repairs. Thank you.

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Where are these drain holes you all speak of located?
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Where are these drain holes you all speak of located?
Middle of the door on the bottom just inside the door crease. Directly above the wet spots in my pictures.. in the second you can actually see a steady stream of water coming out.

If this is normal design as stated above - it's pretty silly - I wonder how the doors hold up over time if the car is left outside on an incline for periods of time..

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