Differential Leak vs Break In Method - Page 2

MidniteBlues · 10-31-2006, 02:55 PM

Looks like our poll is starting to get some legs

With the posting and the info from our sister site (SOL) we should get a real good picture of this problem. So far tho, I haveta tell ya, my suspicion that all of the problems were LSD's is starting to bear fruit and confirming my original thought.

I am going to haveta search the threads on both forums, I think it was in the SOL forum where one of the guys replaced the factory oil on his LSD to an Amsoil LSD type oil--don't recall the details or all the particualrs but we need to find out and see if his thoughts have been "refined" and check to see how his LSD is doing. BTW I mentioned this oil thing to my 2 Sky techs at my dealer, they thought that info was interesting--

nick177th · 10-31-2006, 08:54 PM

I'm a Sol owner. it feels weird over here on this forum

. J/K had a small diff leak. changed the pinion seal and all is good. I have a 5 spd man. with LSD.

denette · 11-02-2006, 08:15 PM

In-service/delivery date: DEC/15/05

Approx Date leak detected: FEB/23/06

Approx Mileage when leak detected: 2,250

Source of leak (if known): Pinion Seal

LSD:YES w/clunk

http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/s...119#post203119

visit this link for more on Sols....

Maverick · 11-02-2006, 09:56 PM

I don't think the break-in method has anything to do with the differential leak. Most of the leaks are vent, shaft seal or baffling. None of these issues would be effected by the way you drive the car during break-in.

MidniteBlues · 11-02-2006, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick

I don't think the break-in method has anything to do with the differential leak. Most of the leaks are vent, shaft seal or baffling. None of these issues would be effected by the way you drive the car during break-in.

Hmm, I disagree with 1st part, I agree on 2nd part of the problems you state, BUT I disagree on your third part, BUT I respect your opinion--I'll let this poll speak for me, if we can get 200-300 to respond, we would have a nice feel on this matter- one way or the other--But I tend to believe my Sky technicians and I will lean in their way for the moment-

Sabre · 11-02-2006, 11:56 PM

So far, the poll supports that a hard break-in is better than the "per manual" break-in with regards to differential leaks.

MidniteBlues · 11-03-2006, 12:07 AM

be more specific 9 to 4 is my look in that "area" your talking about (so far). Keep an open mind and look at the 'over all' census of this poll. BTW It is not MY poll, its OUR poll--

Sabre · 11-03-2006, 12:20 AM

9:4 is much better than 18:22 for the LSD diff leaks.

But, it is early in the poll.

Antonio · 11-12-2006, 03:21 AM

*bump*

Ok. There's 80 poll votes so far, still not as high as I would like, but we're definitely starting to see a pattern here, and we might be on to something.

It appears that the LSD is what is doing most of the leaking vs the Regular Diff.

LSD Leak vs. Reg Leak

30____vs.____2

Very clear results there.

Also, regarding the LSD, it does seem that breaking in the car with normal or hard driving is BETTER than how the manual suggests.

LSD Broken in per Manual vs. LSD Broken in Hard/Normal

26____vs.____4

Again, seems to be very clear results so far.

Let's keep up the voting so we can confirm this theory.

On a separate note, it seems that the transmission doesn't seem to have a clear affect on the eventual leak of the Differential. At least not with any clear results.

hyperode · 11-16-2006, 02:45 PM

I replied no leak with a 5 speed LSD but only have 1400 miles approximately on the car. Hope I'm not premature in my No leak poll.

Alchris · 11-26-2006, 02:08 AM

LSD, 5 sp, 5500 miles just noticed a few spots in the garage

N Schmitt · 11-28-2006, 09:23 PM

LSD with 5 speed manual. Average 24.8 MPH so I don't Hot Rod. Started leaking at 4000 miles or 4 months.

Antonio · 11-28-2006, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N Schmitt

LSD with 5 speed manual. Average 24.8 MPH so I don't Hot Rod. Started leaking at 4000 miles or 4 months.

this pole is really starting to show that easy or light break in for the LSD is causing leaks.

Keep the info coming!

BlueSkyRL · 11-28-2006, 10:19 PM

I will reply when I have more miles on the car (210 miles so far). By the way I am breaking her in full throttle style

MidniteBlues · 02-14-2007, 03:18 PM

BUMP With all the new leaks reported, especially with the R/L's and some regular rear-ends leak(s), this poll need to be updated & refreshed with the latest new leakers, or re-leakers--Please reply if you Sky has peed any oil--

**Texas Red Line** · 02-14-2007, 03:31 PM

Snagged the Redline and drove 825 miles the first day. Took it fairly easy the first 300 miles (no cruise and under 70), next 100 drove it close to normal, next hundred tried it out passing 4 cars and hit 105. The rest of the way was normal driving.2,800 miles and no leaks

sunflower · 02-14-2007, 04:12 PM

Does any one know the percentage of Sol/Sky sold that have the LSD, this info would be needed to draw a comparison between the two types of differentials.

kwayne · 02-14-2007, 04:32 PM

see my question here
how long will we take it!D.I.F.F (#9)

CJsSky · 02-15-2007, 08:01 AM

Mine was leaking from almost day 1. Took Maria in for the shifting clunk. Tech discovered LSD was leaking then, < 1K miles. New seals, and vent tube mod was not going to resolve it. Saturn replaced it. Will see how the new one does. Problem seems to be in the beginning run. Much like Dodge transmissions before SPC.

lbsky · 02-20-2007, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick

I don't think the break-in method has anything to do with the differential leak. Most of the leaks are vent, shaft seal or baffling. None of these issues would be effected by the way you drive the car during break-in.

break in has nothing to do with it

View Poll Results: Differential Leak vs. Break In Method
Regular Diff w/ Leak - Break in per Manual - Auto Trans	3	1.86%
Regular Diff w/ Leak - Break in per Manual - 5 Spd	1	0.62%
Regular Diff NO Leak - Break in per Manual - Auto Trans	4	2.48%
Regular Diff NO Leak - Break in per Manual - 5 Spd	13	8.07%
Reg Diff w/ Leak - Break in Hard/Normal - Auto Trans	1	0.62%
Reg Diff w/ Leak - Break in Hard/Normal - 5 Spd	0	0%
Reg Diff NO Leak - Break in Hard/Normal - Auto Trans	2	1.24%
Reg Diff NO Leak - Break in Hard/Normal - 5 Spd	4	2.48%
LSD Diff w/ Leak - Break in per Manual - Auto Trans	13	8.07%
LSD Diff w/ Leak - Break in per Manual - 5 Spd	28	17.39%
LSD Diff NO Leak - Break in per Manual - Auto Trans	15	9.32%
LSD Diff NO Leak - Break in per Manual - 5 Spd	37	22.98%
LSD Diff w/ Leak - Break in Hard/Normal - Auto Trans	3	1.86%
LSD Diff w/ Leak - Break in Hard/Normal - 5 Spd	8	4.97%
LSD Diff No Leak - Break in Hard/Normal - Auto Trans	12	7.45%
LSD Diff NO Leak - Break in Hard/Normal - 5 Spd	17	10.56%
Voters: 161. You may not vote on this poll

10-31-2006, 02:55 PM	#31 (permalink)
MidniteBlues Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 3,586 My Photos: (0)	Looks like our poll is starting to get some legs With the posting and the info from our sister site (SOL) we should get a real good picture of this problem. So far tho, I haveta tell ya, my suspicion that all of the problems were LSD's is starting to bear fruit and confirming my original thought. I am going to haveta search the threads on both forums, I think it was in the SOL forum where one of the guys replaced the factory oil on his LSD to an Amsoil LSD type oil--don't recall the details or all the particualrs but we need to find out and see if his thoughts have been "refined" and check to see how his LSD is doing. BTW I mentioned this oil thing to my 2 Sky techs at my dealer, they thought that info was interesting-- __________________ 2.4L Midnight Blue, Premium Trim Package, Automatic, Monsoon Pre Audio 1-CD, Std Rear. GMPP CAI, 3M Clear Bra, Splash Guards, Black Top, Fiam Frwy Blastr 2-horn Opel Ant - WR V2 - Flux Capacitor -

11-02-2006, 08:15 PM	#33 (permalink)
denette Supporting Vendor Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 212 My Photos: (4)	In-service/delivery date: DEC/15/05 Approx Date leak detected: FEB/23/06 Approx Mileage when leak detected: 2,250 Source of leak (if known): Pinion Seal LSD:YES w/clunk http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/s...119#post203119 visit this link for more on Sols.... __________________ Solstice Owner... a RED one and a BLUE one and a WHITE one...yup three of them...too cool Phoenix Solstice and SKY Club NEW TRACK VIDEO GMRoadster Clubs Let us help build your club Last edited by denette : 11-02-2006 at 08:19 PM.

11-02-2006, 11:56 PM	#36 (permalink)
Sabre Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 116 My Photos: (0)	So far, the poll supports that a hard break-in is better than the "per manual" break-in with regards to differential leaks. __________________ Redline Order Number KFGB54 Black Leather Black Top Polished Alloys XM radio Manual Tranny 3" Magnaflow and other secrets. Last edited by Sabre : 11-03-2006 at 12:19 AM.

11-03-2006, 12:07 AM	#37 (permalink)
MidniteBlues Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 3,586 My Photos: (0)	be more specific 9 to 4 is my look in that "area" your talking about (so far). Keep an open mind and look at the 'over all' census of this poll. BTW It is not MY poll, its OUR poll-- __________________ 2.4L Midnight Blue, Premium Trim Package, Automatic, Monsoon Pre Audio 1-CD, Std Rear. GMPP CAI, 3M Clear Bra, Splash Guards, Black Top, Fiam Frwy Blastr 2-horn Opel Ant - WR V2 - Flux Capacitor -

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10-31-2006, 08:54 PM	#32 (permalink)
nick177th Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5 My Photos: (0)	I'm a Sol owner. it feels weird over here on this forum . J/K had a small diff leak. changed the pinion seal and all is good. I have a 5 spd man. with LSD.

11-02-2006, 09:56 PM	#34 (permalink)
Maverick First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mid-west Posts: 476 My Photos: (9)	I don't think the break-in method has anything to do with the differential leak. Most of the leaks are vent, shaft seal or baffling. None of these issues would be effected by the way you drive the car during break-in.

11-03-2006, 12:20 AM	#38 (permalink)
Sabre Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 116 My Photos: (0)	9:4 is much better than 18:22 for the LSD diff leaks. But, it is early in the poll. __________________ Redline Order Number KFGB54 Black Leather Black Top Polished Alloys XM radio Manual Tranny 3" Magnaflow and other secrets.

11-12-2006, 03:21 AM	#39 (permalink)
Antonio Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 1,651 My Photos: (6)	bump Ok. There's 80 poll votes so far, still not as high as I would like, but we're definitely starting to see a pattern here, and we might be on to something. It appears that the LSD is what is doing most of the leaking vs the Regular Diff. LSD Leak vs. Reg Leak 30____vs.____2 Very clear results there. Also, regarding the LSD, it does seem that breaking in the car with normal or hard driving is BETTER than how the manual suggests. LSD Broken in per Manual vs. LSD Broken in Hard/Normal 26____vs.____4 Again, seems to be very clear results so far. Let's keep up the voting so we can confirm this theory. On a separate note, it seems that the transmission doesn't seem to have a clear affect on the eventual leak of the Differential. At least not with any clear results. __________________ HAD - '07 Redline -292 whp & 327 wtq - SOLD :( HAVE - '02 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - STOCK....for now http://youtube.com/profile?user=talkaboutblue NASSOA Founding Member

11-16-2006, 02:45 PM	#40 (permalink)
hyperode First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 79 My Photos: (4)	I replied no leak with a 5 speed LSD but only have 1400 miles approximately on the car. Hope I'm not premature in my No leak poll. __________________ Hyperode silver Pearl 5 speed man. monsoon single black leather limited slip polished alum. 1 small windshield rock ding and 2 touch up painted dings

11-26-2006, 02:08 AM	#41 (permalink)
Alchris First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tonawanda, N.Y. (Buffalo) Posts: 47 My Photos: (0)	new leaker LSD, 5 sp, 5500 miles just noticed a few spots in the garage

11-28-2006, 09:23 PM	#42 (permalink)
N Schmitt First 2000 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 18 My Photos: (0)	New Leaker 2 LSD with 5 speed manual. Average 24.8 MPH so I don't Hot Rod. Started leaking at 4000 miles or 4 months.

11-28-2006, 10:19 PM	#44 (permalink)
BlueSkyRL First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Up North! Posts: 975 My Photos: (0)	I will reply when I have more miles on the car (210 miles so far). By the way I am breaking her in full throttle style

02-14-2007, 03:18 PM	#45 (permalink)
MidniteBlues Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 3,586 My Photos: (0)	BUMP With all the new leaks reported, especially with the R/L's and some regular rear-ends leak(s), this poll need to be updated & refreshed with the latest new leakers, or re-leakers--Please reply if you Sky has peed any oil-- __________________ 2.4L Midnight Blue, Premium Trim Package, Automatic, Monsoon Pre Audio 1-CD, Std Rear. GMPP CAI, 3M Clear Bra, Splash Guards, Black Top, Fiam Frwy Blastr 2-horn Opel Ant - WR V2 - Flux Capacitor -

02-14-2007, 03:31 PM	#46 (permalink)
Texas Red Line First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canyon Lake, Tx Posts: 857 My Photos: (9)	Snagged the Redline and drove 825 miles the first day. Took it fairly easy the first 300 miles (no cruise and under 70), next 100 drove it close to normal, next hundred tried it out passing 4 cars and hit 105. The rest of the way was normal driving.2,800 miles and no leaks __________________ Saturn Sky Red Line Chili Pepper Red Exterior Black Leather Trim Automatic 1 CD disc Chrome Wheels Windrestictor-Custom Laser Garmen 350 GPS Custom Horn Visor sticky covers

02-14-2007, 04:12 PM	#47 (permalink)
sunflower Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 3 My Photos: (0)	poll Does any one know the percentage of Sol/Sky sold that have the LSD, this info would be needed to draw a comparison between the two types of differentials.

02-15-2007, 08:01 AM	#49 (permalink)
CJsSky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 437 My Photos: (0)	Mine was leaking from almost day 1. Took Maria in for the shifting clunk. Tech discovered LSD was leaking then, < 1K miles. New seals, and vent tube mod was not going to resolve it. Saturn replaced it. Will see how the new one does. Problem seems to be in the beginning run. Much like Dodge transmissions before SPC. __________________ Maria #284 Midnight Blue Monsoon Sound