290 hp gm ecm tune - confirmed - Page 14

SaturnSkyDude · 10-08-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RedHeaded RedLine

Shenanigans!

There is no tune.
I don't think there ever was. -J

I declare shenanigans too!! Where's my broom !!

JeffInDFW · 10-09-2008, 03:01 AM

Over on Solstice forum, Moms said that Gm was building up the stock or something like that.....Sorry, too lazy to go find it again. I was led to believe she was refering to the sensors. Over at the HHR forum, a guy from a Chevy dealer posted an email he got from GM Parts saying "2 months", and it was dated mid September.

I'm just the messenger, and have no info myself....

uranium-238 · 10-09-2008, 08:06 AM

I think the CARB cert stuff proves that there is a tune. As for performance numbers and a timetable, most of that is mostly speculation. However I am hoping the rumor that the manuals will be getting 315 hp/310 torque is true.

dengel · 10-09-2008, 10:16 AM

Living in the North and given that it is already mid-October, I will probably be waiting until the Spring to buy this tune anyway. So at this point the exact release date doesn't matter so much to me.

BlueSkyRL · 10-09-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dengel

Living in the North and given that it is already mid-October, I will probably be waiting until the Spring to buy this tune anyway. So at this point the exact release date doesn't matter so much to me.

I'm thinking the same thing...getting ready to put "her" away for the winter. Spring fever will set in and then the tune will be that much more exciting

**T1T2GRE** · 10-11-2008, 08:26 PM

My gf called the Saturn dealer near me to ask about the ECM tune for my '08 RL MT; the part number (posted somewhere here) didn't work, but the guy went on about how he thought they'd have to send out the ECM etc. etc. as if he had heard all about it.

Methinks that's some sort of admission it is real....one can hope...

Rob the Elder · 10-12-2008, 01:49 AM

LOL The last thing I want is some dealer tech pulling the ECM out of the car. That is how things get broken.

dengel · 10-14-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by T1T2GRE

My gf called the Saturn dealer near me to ask about the ECM tune for my '08 RL MT; the part number (posted somewhere here) didn't work, but the guy went on about how he thought they'd have to send out the ECM etc. etc. as if he had heard all about it.

Methinks that's some sort of admission it is real....one can hope...

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Originally Posted by Rob the Elder

LOL The last thing I want is some dealer tech pulling the ECM out of the car. That is how things get broken.

When I spoke to the parts guy at my Pontiac dealership, he said that the "kit" comes with a certificate with a code than enables them to download the tune off of a GM website and load it onto your car. No need to remove the ECM from your car - they just plug a tool into your OBD port and download the tune onto the ECM.

Kyle Engelsmeier · 10-14-2008, 03:24 AM

has no1 noticed this? would this not be what they are talking about?

Saturn Motorsports

stealthsky · 10-14-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle Engelsmeier

has no1 noticed this? would this not be what they are talking about?

Saturn Motorsports

It would not. Saturn Motorsports is not affiliated with GM. That is an aftermarket tune

**Ahnuld** · 10-14-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by uranium-238

I think the CARB cert stuff proves that there is a tune.

Agreed

Quote:

Originally Posted by uranium-238

As for performance numbers and a timetable, most of that is mostly speculation. However I am hoping the rumor that the manuals will be getting 315 hp/310 torque is true.

315? Wow... did I miss those rumors in this thread?
thats a lot of factory warranted HP for our little cars.

We'd eat up everything in our class.....

RedSkyWV · 10-14-2008, 09:48 AM

That's the number circulating for the new upgrade. 315/310 for the manuals and 290/290(?) for the automatics. I think they're afraid the auto transmission can't handle the power, but I'm certain I'm over 290 crank and driving fine (maybe not warranteeable though). Those numbers are crank numbers not wheel numbers though. There are several folks doing 330+ crank but again without warranty.

ChgoBlues · 10-14-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dengel

When I spoke to the parts guy at my Pontiac dealership, he said that the "kit" comes with a certificate with a code than enables them to download the tune off of a GM website and load it onto your car. No need to remove the ECM from your car - they just plug a tool into your OBD port and download the tune onto the ECM.

Yep, that's how they did the Stage 2 install for my Ion Red Line. You will also have a unique number should ANY work on the ECM be required that the tech will have to call in for authorization.

Kappa Fan · 10-14-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RedHeaded RedLine

Shenanigans!

There is no tune.
I don't think there ever was. -J

Ask Don Knowles or Bill Ziegler if there is a tune .... ask PhoenixPerformance Racing if they have worked with any of the GM Performance engineers.

Just because it hasn't come about yet doesn't mean it does NOT exist.

There ARE legalities that MUST be met (thanks California

and CARB)

dengel · 10-14-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahnuld

Agreed

315? Wow... did I miss those rumors in this thread?
thats a lot of factory warranted HP for our little cars.

We'd eat up everything in our class.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedSkyWV

That's the number circulating for the new upgrade. 315/310 for the manuals and 290/290(?) for the automatics. I think they're afraid the auto transmission can't handle the power, but I'm certain I'm over 290 crank and driving fine (maybe not warranteeable though). Those numbers are crank numbers not wheel numbers though. There are several folks doing 330+ crank but again without warranty.

Well, thats a number someone found on an HHR website where they were discussing the tune. Since the HHR has the same engine as the Redline and GXP, some are wondering if the rumor is true and if the numbers would be the same for our cars.

All of the rumors that I have heard of through the Solstice/Sky communities have said 290 hp/310 torque, with no differentiation between manual and automatic transmissions.

Bogie · 10-14-2008, 11:09 AM

When did it jump from 290HP to 310HP?

Original info (for manual) was 290HP and 310 lb-ft.

Original info (for auto) 288HP and less torque than manual.

Is this HP-to-torque creep, or is there some substance behind the change?

cerberus · 10-14-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie

When did it jump from 290HP to 310HP?

Original info (for manual) was 290HP and 310 lb-ft.

Original info (for auto) 288HP and less torque than manual.

Is this HP-to-torque creep, or is there some substance behind the change?

Swirling speculation in the vacuum of hard info. The 315bhp has been floating around and revived from a claim on a HHR forum. We'll have just have to wait and see...

dengel · 10-14-2008, 11:23 AM

Here are some posts extracted from over on the sol side:

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Originally Posted by brentil

Since the news has been broken elsewhere the official part # is 19212670 can't order it yet since they're attempting to build up stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cerberus

Since you can confirm the final part#, can ya confirm the rest of that HHR post which continues on by saying HHR auto trans goes from 260 to 290hp at 5200rpm, while the manual trans HHR goes to 315hp at 4800rpm? The claim was that that info came from GMSPO. Any idea whether those HHR numbers, if true, will be realized on the Kappas?

Still looking for the original reference to the HHR forum post, though.

cerberus · 10-14-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dengel

Still looking for the original reference to the HHR forum post, though.

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Originally Posted by ChevyMgr@hhrform

Here is the latest update on these stage kits.

The 19212670 is the part number for the manual transmission stage kit. Nobody will say whats in it, but horsepower goes to
315hp @ 4800 rpm.

No part number for the auto transmission stage kit yet. Horsepower will go to 290hp @ 5200 rpm.

And as stated by jookster somewhere around 2 months before they are released.

This information comes from GMSPO (GM Parts).

http://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/showp...4&postcount=58

IIRC the two competing numbers have been bouncing around earlier than this claim. Folks from the Mecca tour were told 290. On the sol forum some folks claim 315 from an earlier NOPI event. The Mecca numbers are more recent, aren't they? The post from ChevyMgr speaks of only the HHR, and again, till we see the official GM claim, <shrug>, ...

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JeffInDFW First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 108 My Photos: (13)	Over on Solstice forum, Moms said that Gm was building up the stock or something like that.....Sorry, too lazy to go find it again. I was led to believe she was refering to the sensors. Over at the HHR forum, a guy from a Chevy dealer posted an email he got from GM Parts saying "2 months", and it was dated mid September. I'm just the messenger, and have no info myself.... __________________ 2006 Deep Solstice NA...Traded in for: 2009 Sky Redline Ruby Red Limited Edition 5 speed manual/rear spoiler added/6 disc/Monsoon Sport pedals/onstar/bluetooth Thank You Bob Lutz

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uranium-238 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 525 My Photos: (0)	I think the CARB cert stuff proves that there is a tune. As for performance numbers and a timetable, most of that is mostly speculation. However I am hoping the rumor that the manuals will be getting 315 hp/310 torque is true. __________________ Black 2009 Saturn Sky Redline Manual transmission Black leather Monsoon stereo 6-disk CD/MP3 changer Stubby Antenna "Redline" Wind Restrictor Next Mod: JPM Shifter assemlby Last edited by uranium-238 : 10-09-2008 at 10:44 AM.

10-11-2008, 08:26 PM	#396 (permalink)
T1T2GRE Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hummelstown, PA Posts: 37 My Photos: (0)	Is it real or is it Memorex? My gf called the Saturn dealer near me to ask about the ECM tune for my '08 RL MT; the part number (posted somewhere here) didn't work, but the guy went on about how he thought they'd have to send out the ECM etc. etc. as if he had heard all about it. Methinks that's some sort of admission it is real....one can hope... __________________ "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" Plato 08 Silver P RL MT 8/21/08 Splash guards 9/17/08 Lil' Chromies 9/27/08 OZ Ultraleggeras 10/2/08 GMPP CAI 10/4/08 Stubby 10/16/08 GMPP Cat-back 10/22/08 DEJON ICP 11/1/08 GM ECM Tune Hell/Freezes/Over

10-14-2008, 11:09 AM	#406 (permalink)
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Northern, VA Posts: 2,476 My Photos: (0)	When did it jump from 290HP to 310HP? Original info (for manual) was 290HP and 310 lb-ft. Original info (for auto) 288HP and less torque than manual. Is this HP-to-torque creep, or is there some substance behind the change? __________________ 2008 Redline Black Onyx Black/Red Leather Monsoon 6 Disc Spoiler French Transmission Born July 2007 Snagged 8/31/07 Belle? That's my car Alizée? That's my avatar Me? Forty something male skydriver

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10-09-2008, 10:16 AM	#394 (permalink)
dengel Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: solsticeforum.com Posts: 1,024 My Photos: (0)	Living in the North and given that it is already mid-October, I will probably be waiting until the Spring to buy this tune anyway. So at this point the exact release date doesn't matter so much to me.

10-12-2008, 01:49 AM	#397 (permalink)
Rob the Elder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Parker Colorado Posts: 309 My Photos: (1)	LOL The last thing I want is some dealer tech pulling the ECM out of the car. That is how things get broken.

10-14-2008, 03:24 AM	#399 (permalink)
Kyle Engelsmeier Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 34 My Photos: (0)	has no1 noticed this? would this not be what they are talking about? Saturn Motorsports

10-14-2008, 09:48 AM	#402 (permalink)
RedSkyWV Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Morgantown WV Posts: 218 My Photos: (0)	That's the number circulating for the new upgrade. 315/310 for the manuals and 290/290(?) for the automatics. I think they're afraid the auto transmission can't handle the power, but I'm certain I'm over 290 crank and driving fine (maybe not warranteeable though). Those numbers are crank numbers not wheel numbers though. There are several folks doing 330+ crank but again without warranty.