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Old 05-09-2008, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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290 hp gm ecm tune - confirmed

During the mecca tour speaches, the chief kappa engineer announced the are testing a 290 hp ecm tune to be released this summer!!! Warranty stays in tact an will sell for under a grand
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30 more hp better not cost more than $500, the cobalt ss guys pay $635 for a 40hp increase.
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$500 - $600 dollar range and I'm all over it

Closer to a grand, I'd have to back off a bit

I hope it is true tho

How would we go about getting it .... thru the Dealer ?
The way it is now I HAVE TO INFORM them of the TSB's,
Recalls, etc. I can just imagine asking them about this
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I'd expect this would be a dealer reflash. Nothing yet for an EO from CARB for an ECM update, but it's not summer yet. I checked and mention that as it's a heads up for us when this gets close to release.

Thanks fo the info, Ahnuld. No go back and get some whp for our 2.4s .
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Sounds like a great thing for all of us. Can't wait to hear what the price is.
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the guy who made statement...
is Bruce Kosbab - the chief engineer for kappa.
below is him from an older video

He said this today..
in the assembly plant... in front of 250 kappa owners... with the entire Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice management team present... and the local plant managers... and the UAW regional president
So it is true.

The tune is based on the Solstice Sema SD290 concept

And ... Price under a grand... sounds like $899 to me

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Glad to hear it...can't wait to see and feel it. Oh Yeah! Keep us posted
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When do I start bugging my dealer?
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It would be nice if you could ask them what the plans are for the brake refit for the 2008 redlines/gxps...
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It would be nice if you could ask them what the plans are for the brake refit for the 2008 redlines/gxps...
That's a simple reflash now.
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so basically what youre saying is, with my stock sky redline, all i have to do is go to the dealership and get a new ecm or reflash or whatever it is and ill have 290 hp. i have to do nothing else to the car right? just stay completely stock right?
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so basically what youre saying is, with my stock sky redline, all i have to do is go to the dealership and get a new ecm or reflash or whatever it is and ill have 290 hp. i have to do nothing else to the car right? just stay completely stock right?

Absolutely!

Well... you'll need to hand em a bunch of cash.
(and wait till its officially released this summer)

Actually... I think its strange to even charge us for this!! or charge a lot for it.
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It would be nice if you could ask them what the plans are for the brake refit for the 2008 redlines/gxps...

this is a service bulletin, and is corrected by a flash of the ECU/ECM.
SOmeone posted the entire bulleting here.

At Mecca, they even flew in the guy who WRITES the service bulletins!!

If anyone had any questions about anything on the car... they had them there
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this is a service bulletin, and is corrected by a flash of the ECU/ECM.
SOmeone posted the entire bulleting here.
Yes, I'm aware of the reflash TSB, except it's not nearly that simple. Some people who have gotten the new flash report that the problem is even worse afterwards.

Also, at least one person here has gotten the auxilary pump retro-fitted to their 2008 (under warranty), and the rumor was that GM was preparig a refit kit for the rest of us.
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Does that mean we will have even more hp if we put in a RPI exhaust? Is this for redlines?
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So if I understand this, they plug my RL into a computer, flip a few switches, re-flash an eprom and it costs a GRAND? For this nominal effort? Cripe, and they wonder why we go aftermarket and have service performed by OTHER THAN A DEALER?
Yes but there is a lot of time and testing to make that flash program. And lets not forget the warranty stays in tact too
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It would be nice if you could ask them what the plans are for the brake refit for the 2008 redlines/gxps...
whats a brake refit?
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good news indeed! Will they have this tune for the 08s also? All of the aftermarket tunes are only for the 07s but I assume since this is a GM tune they will have it for all years? I hope????
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Remember, the Ecotec is "capable" of a lot more than 260HP. This is a relatively new engine. So initial tuning will be conservative. We have a 5/100K on the engine. The engineers have looked at the Ecotec (and all the other drive pieces) and determined that they can withstand 290 HP and still maintain longevity. 30 extra HP, backed by GM's 5/100 for under $1K.....I think it's a good deal.

GM is in this to MAKE MONEY. Of course, they also want to satisfy us customers....but that goes hand in hand with making money. And I hope they make plenty of money. Because a healthy GM is good for us...and our future with our Kappas.
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Remember carefully please (or correct me if I am remembering wrongly) but he never said that the Stage II was just and ECM reflash, it could include other parts.
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