290 hp gm ecm tune - confirmed - Page 7

Va_Sky · 08-22-2008, 10:10 PM

WOOOO HOOOO!!!! The GM Stage II 290 hp gm ecm tune is set to come out in September.... As posted by MomsSol on the Solstice side...

Pontiac Solstice Forum - View Single Post - GM Stage Kit info from the Senior Engineering Manager of GM

**G8TR** · 08-22-2008, 10:28 PM

Lot of discussion on the Sol side about price and amount of HP is to be gained from this tune. Also talk of locking the ecm.

**lorennerol** · 08-22-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Va_Sky

WOOOO HOOOO!!!! The GM Stage II 290 hp gm ecm tune is set to come out in September.... As posted by MomsSol on the Solstice side...

Pontiac Solstice Forum - View Single Post - GM Stage Kit info from the Senior Engineering Manager of GM

Woot! Christmas in September!!

Va_Sky · 08-22-2008, 10:36 PM

Yea I did see that but the plus side is that it dose not void your warranty. I'll take more horse power that lets me keep my full warranty any day...

**G8TR** · 08-22-2008, 10:46 PM

If you have the extra ecm and the price is under the gm price I don't see that as a problem.

Bogie · 08-23-2008, 12:34 AM

The quote was "planned" for September. You also need to add a pinch of salt since the source isn't GM.

Va_Sky · 08-23-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie

The quote was "planned" for September. You also need to add a pinch of salt since the source isn't GM.

Awww come on Bogie, don't burst'n my bubble... September, October, November(hey could be a birthday present...), one of those bers anyway...

GeniusInABottle · 08-23-2008, 02:18 AM

Now the question is, will this tune even match the gains seen from the BSR stage 1 (let alone the rumored stage 2)? Sucks that BSR stage 2 still isn't out, I've been itching to upgrade and if GM's tune comes out first I may just make the switch to that, be covered under warranty, and be done with it.

BSRL · 08-23-2008, 06:05 AM

September is right around the corner. Let's just hope it comes out before the end of the year. That would be nice!

Bogie · 08-23-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BSRL

September is right around the corner. Let's just hope it comes out before the end of the year. That would be nice!

Actually, if I remember the statement during MeccaII, it was "this summer". So if it comes out by 22 September, it will actually be out "this summer".

Oh, and I think this tune will be good for sales, not just after market upgrades. If I were a dealer, I would tune a new one up (or maybe just offer the tune) and prominently advertise the power.

Saturn SKY BLOWOUT ...WOW!!! 290HP!!!!

compdoc777 · 08-23-2008, 11:34 AM

This tune is about the same as the BSR maybe a little less WHP or Wheel horse power.

290 HP minus the driveline toll at 15% which I averaged from the crank claims gives you 245-250 range up from 220-225 whp. Unless this tune is claiming WHP which I serioulsy doupt.

The BSR + Hahn IC gives you 286 whp and 307 Torque that put evenly with the GM crank power would be 328 HP and 353 Torque for BSR + IC.

Westers would probably give you the most power at the moment don't have dyno numbers on that tune, but I knows it even more powerful.

SKY888 · 08-23-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by compdoc777

This tune is about the same as the BSR maybe a little less WHP or Wheel horse power.

290 HP minus the driveline toll at 15% which I averaged from the crank claims gives you 245-250 range up from 220-225 whp. Unless this tune is claiming WHP which I serioulsy doupt.

The BSR + Hahn IC gives you 286 whp and 307 Torque.

Westers would probably give you the most power at the moment don't have dyno numbers on that tune, but I knows it even more powerful.

Besides BSR's whp advantage, it also gives you two more things: raises the rev limit to 7000 rpm on 1st and 2nd gear, plus gives you a launch control at 4500 rpm.

on the other hand, the gm upgrade will not void your warranty.

so members can just choose what they want!

GeniusInABottle · 08-23-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SKY888

Besides BSR's whp advantage, it also gives you two more things: raises the rev limit to 7000 rpm on 1st and 2nd gear, plus gives you a launch control at 4500 rpm.

on the other hand, the gm upgrade will not void your warranty.

so members can just choose what they want!

Though I highly doubt the inclusion of launch control, we don't yet know what the GM tune will or won't have, so I don't think advantages like that are a given. Also, as evidenced by the Redline's stock power output, GM has been overly conservative with the numbers they advertise. 290hp from them could well equal something over 300hp when all is said and done -- and who know what crazy levels the torque will be at now.

Bogie · 08-23-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GeniusInABottle

and who know what crazy levels the torque will be at now.

They advertised 310 lb-ft.

Keep in mind that the limit might not be the engine but the transmission. We have a strong first gear. As I note previously, if the tune puts out 310 lb-ft, and you can get that delivered in first gear, our SKY will put down more wheel torque in first than a C6 Vette!

And before everyone starts dreaming of blowing away the Vettes, your little advantage will be very short lived...because you gotta go to 2nd at around 30 mph and the Vette will hold first past 60.

mbeardsley · 08-23-2008, 04:58 PM

Nobody would be more happy about this if it were true, but I won't believe it until my dealer says "Sure, come on down and we'll install it".

Until that happens (or at least until there is an official GM announcement), it's all just "somebody told me that somebody said that it's going to happen sometime".

Hopefully I'm being needlessly cynical...

OKC08SKYR/L · 08-24-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie

They advertised 310 lb-ft.

Keep in mind that the limit might not be the engine but the transmission. We have a strong first gear. As I note previously, if the tune puts out 310 lb-ft, and you can get that delivered in first gear, our SKY will put down more wheel torque in first than a C6 Vette!

And before everyone starts dreaming of blowing away the Vettes, your little advantage will be very short lived...because you gotta go to 2nd at around 30 mph and the Vette will hold first past 60.

I have been hoping that the next generation Redline has at least 320hp. Otherwise, I will have to take a serious look at the 370Z roadster.

ratsworld · 08-24-2008, 10:08 PM

hmm. extra torque in 1st.......when it's already so easy to chirp the tires....wounds like a winter nightmare for a daily driver. but I'm still game, especially if it's actually covered under warrenty!!

Bogie · 08-25-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OKC08SKYR/L

I have been hoping that the next generation Redline has at least 320hp. Otherwise, I will have to take a serious look at the 370Z roadster.

LoL: Nice sig. A new sporty car every two to three years, eh?

Booster_RL · 08-25-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie

LoL: Nice sig. A new sporty car every two to three years, eh?

He has a little ADHD. Remind me never to post my garage here if you find that to be ADHD I'm now scared to even remotely put mine up.

OKC08SKYR/L · 08-25-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie

LoL: Nice sig. A new sporty car every two to three years, eh?

I can't make up my mind if I am a muscle car guy or a sports car guy.

08-22-2008, 10:10 PM	#181 (permalink)
Va_Sky Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lost somewhere in the Atlantic. Posts: 295 My Photos: (0)	WOOOO HOOOO!!!! The GM Stage II 290 hp gm ecm tune is set to come out in September.... As posted by MomsSol on the Solstice side... Pontiac Solstice Forum - View Single Post - GM Stage Kit info from the Senior Engineering Manager of GM __________________ 08 *Redline* *Midnight Blue* Black/Black, Three Pedals (Do They Make'm Any Other Way?), Spoiler, Chome, Monsoon, Opel GT Antenna, V2 Windrestrictor, JPM Embroidered Visor Covers and Console ImSaturn Profile Ordered 7/1/07 Delivered 8/14/07

08-22-2008, 10:28 PM	#182 (permalink)
G8TR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 806 My Photos: (3)	Lot of discussion on the Sol side about price and amount of HP is to be gained from this tune. Also talk of locking the ecm. __________________ Life is happenstance, coincidence and what you do to make a difference. Make the best of what you have, work for more and hope for health.

08-22-2008, 10:36 PM	#184 (permalink)
Va_Sky Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lost somewhere in the Atlantic. Posts: 295 My Photos: (0)	Yea I did see that but the plus side is that it dose not void your warranty. I'll take more horse power that lets me keep my full warranty any day... __________________ 08 *Redline* *Midnight Blue* Black/Black, Three Pedals (Do They Make'm Any Other Way?), Spoiler, Chome, Monsoon, Opel GT Antenna, V2 Windrestrictor, JPM Embroidered Visor Covers and Console ImSaturn Profile Ordered 7/1/07 Delivered 8/14/07

08-22-2008, 10:46 PM	#185 (permalink)
G8TR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 806 My Photos: (3)	If you have the extra ecm and the price is under the gm price I don't see that as a problem. __________________ Life is happenstance, coincidence and what you do to make a difference. Make the best of what you have, work for more and hope for health.

08-23-2008, 12:34 AM	#186 (permalink)
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Northern, VA Posts: 2,476 My Photos: (0)	The quote was "planned" for September. You also need to add a pinch of salt since the source isn't GM. __________________ 2008 Redline Black Onyx Black/Red Leather Monsoon 6 Disc Spoiler French Transmission Born July 2007 Snagged 8/31/07 Belle? That's my car Alizée? That's my avatar Me? Forty something male skydriver

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08-23-2008, 02:18 AM	#188 (permalink)
GeniusInABottle Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SF Bay Area, California Posts: 127 My Photos: (3)	Now the question is, will this tune even match the gains seen from the BSR stage 1 (let alone the rumored stage 2)? Sucks that BSR stage 2 still isn't out, I've been itching to upgrade and if GM's tune comes out first I may just make the switch to that, be covered under warranty, and be done with it. __________________ 2008 Saturn Sky Redline \| BSR Stage 1 Tune, RPi Stage 2 IC, GMPP Air Intake, GM Turbo Cat-Back Exhaust, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs, Konig Again 5 Wheels, 245/45 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 Tires

08-23-2008, 06:05 AM	#189 (permalink)
BSRL Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 746 My Photos: (2)	September is right around the corner. Let's just hope it comes out before the end of the year. That would be nice! __________________ My Car Domain Page: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3051777

08-23-2008, 11:34 AM	#191 (permalink)
compdoc777 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 593 My Photos: (6)	This tune is about the same as the BSR maybe a little less WHP or Wheel horse power. 290 HP minus the driveline toll at 15% which I averaged from the crank claims gives you 245-250 range up from 220-225 whp. Unless this tune is claiming WHP which I serioulsy doupt. The BSR + Hahn IC gives you 286 whp and 307 Torque that put evenly with the GM crank power would be 328 HP and 353 Torque for BSR + IC. Westers would probably give you the most power at the moment don't have dyno numbers on that tune, but I knows it even more powerful. __________________ 07 SKY Redline Silver Red/Black Leather, JPM Dash Red leather, WDE Carbon Fiber Dash Kit, BSR Tune, Fujita Intake, Dejon IC pipes, Hahn IC, 3" Magnaflow Quad Exhaust, DDM BBK (RED), BlackCatCustom Gauges. http://www.compdoc777.com/Carstuff/sky1.jpg Last edited by compdoc777 : 08-23-2008 at 02:50 PM.

08-23-2008, 04:58 PM	#195 (permalink)
mbeardsley Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Allen, Texas (just north of Dallas) Posts: 801 My Photos: (6)	Nobody would be more happy about this if it were true, but I won't believe it until my dealer says "Sure, come on down and we'll install it". Until that happens (or at least until there is an official GM announcement), it's all just "somebody told me that somebody said that it's going to happen sometime". Hopefully I'm being needlessly cynical... __________________ 2008 Red/Red/Redline Auto, Single Monsoon, Spoiler Deposit Placed 05/26/07 Order Number Received 06/08/07 Built 07/20/07 Delivered 08/07/07

08-24-2008, 10:08 PM	#197 (permalink)
ratsworld Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Freeland, PA Posts: 32 My Photos: (0)	hmm. extra torque in 1st.......when it's already so easy to chirp the tires....wounds like a winter nightmare for a daily driver. but I'm still game, especially if it's actually covered under warrenty!!