Changes for 2009?

archetype94306 · 02-12-2008, 07:42 PM

Has anyone read or heard what changes are expected for the 2009 Sky? Specifically for the Red Line edition?

Thanks!

Rick Tinley Park · 02-13-2008, 11:50 AM

Very very minor stuff till 2011....

**lorennerol** · 02-13-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by archetype94306

Has anyone read or heard what changes are expected for the 2009 Sky? Specifically for the Red Line edition?

Thanks!

27 titanium cup holders.
Rich, Corinthian leather dash.
Heated seats and seat backs.
Bluetooth.
Relocated touch-sensitive window controls.
Heads up display, including radio controls and backup camera.
2.4 to 300HP, 2.0 to 450HP.
Highway MPG 45 (only 37 city).
New colors: Bell Pepper Green, Carrot Orange, Hematoma Electric Purple.
New 7 speed paddle shift transmission option.
Electric top with hard top included standard.
All wheel drive standard.
Redesigned trunk with room for three oversize suitcases.

MSRP reduced by $1000 across the board.

Okay, it's not April 1 yet, but I couldn't resist...

parrothall · 02-13-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Tinley Park

Very very minor stuff till 2011....

Do you have inside information about this?

compdoc777 · 02-13-2008, 11:30 PM

Some LED tail lights would not be bad.

Navagation system would be awesome (and not the Onstar Navi we have now)

More power and longer gears. Maybe just a 6 speed to replace the 5 speed.

As soon as I get going the fun stops.

jayman · 02-13-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by archetype94306

Has anyone read or heard what changes are expected for the 2009 Sky? Specifically for the Red Line edition?

Thanks!

Inflatable Pam Anderson doll to replace driver's side airbag

BlackSkyPilot · 02-14-2008, 12:01 AM

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Inflatable Pam Anderson doll to replace driver's side airbag

I'd have at least one accident a day!

Actually, I'd like to see some more pockets or nooks to put stuff. Right now most of my stuff goes in the speedometer hole.

ParrotHeadNation · 02-14-2008, 01:02 AM

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I'd have at least one accident a day!

Actually, I'd like to see some more pockets or nooks to put stuff. Right now most of my stuff goes in the speedometer hole.

this accident could be used in so many ways haha.

lets see i'd like to see LED tails they would be nice, and i'd like them to offer that burnt orange color that pontiac has, or even better that blue/purple they have on the new G8

Bogie · 02-15-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by parrothall

Do you have inside information about this?

I don't have any inside information, but Solstices/SKYs are basically handbuilt on a low production line with tailored tooling. If I remember correctly (source is the Solstice Book), I believe the major tooling is designed for about five years at the low production duty cycle. Any major changes will be reflected in the new tooling, which probably won't be online until 2011 or so. Of course, if the production runs higher than projected, we could see a re-tool sooner.

Keep in mind that it can take several years from concept to tool, so I would not be surprised if major changes are in the works GM already has the concepts laid out but under wraps. Also keep in mind GM is hurting financially, so whatever they do will have to make sense financially.

HoldHard · 02-15-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie

I don't have any inside information, but Solstices/SKYs are basically handbuilt on a low production line with tailored tooling. If I remember correctly (source is the Solstice Book), I believe the major tooling is designed for about five years at the low production duty cycle. Any major changes will be reflected in the new tooling, which probably won't be online until 2011 or so. Of course, if the production runs higher than projected, we could see a re-tool sooner.

Keep in mind that it can take several years from concept to tool, so I would not be surprised if major changes are in the works GM already has the concepts laid out but under wraps. Also keep in mind GM is hurting financially, so whatever they do will have to make sense financially.

That timing also matches the Delaware plant closing and the proposed movement of Kappa production to Bowling Green...

HH

parrothall · 02-15-2008, 04:35 PM

That is understandable about re-tooling of the plant. Especially with the current state of GM.

What I would like to see though is the brake issue being resolved. That is one of the reasons I am holding out for an '09. The other is to see if Saturn/GM will come out with a tune as well. From what I've read, it sounds like a tune not only increases HP, but also fuel economy.

With the high prices of gas and the pressure to make cars more fuel efficient, one would think that Saturn/GM would want to provide a tune.

brenner46 · 02-15-2008, 11:01 PM

Am dreaming of Sky RL ownership within the next year, and have read many forums. I'm concerned about brake issues, but come from the old era when cars had NO power brakes and you had to push like h--ll to emergency stop. Maybe we're a bit spoiled with powers, but turbo has no impact on start-up with whether brakes work or not, so am puzzled by GM's responses. Has to be the vaccuum valve. And at this point in my life (mortgage paid off, kids gone) I don't care any more about fuel prices. It's time for me to have some fun. Looking forward to the rubber-necking to see my new RL. And my I4 5-speed Cobalt is only averaging 27. The Sky averaging 23-26 is a much more stylish ride, and far more fun.

WishfulThinking · 02-16-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by parrothall

What I would like to see though is the brake issue being resolved. That is one of the reasons I am holding out for an '09.

I'm kinda thinking the same thing. Window switches that don't require me to get my arm surgically shortened would seem pretty reasonable also. There are some quirks that can be written off as "that's just the type of car it is", but cutting corners on the brakes, and switches that can't be reached are things that are hard to explain away.

OKC08SKYR/L · 02-16-2008, 12:43 AM

350whp and all wheel drive would be nice.

Saber49 · 02-16-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OKC08SKYR/L

350whp and all wheel drive would be nice.

nice... but get ready to pay 10,000 grand more for it... i almost would lol...

gadget · 02-17-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WishfulThinking

I'm kinda thinking the same thing. Window switches that don't require me to get my arm surgically shortened would seem pretty reasonable also. There are some quirks that can be written off as "that's just the type of car it is", but cutting corners on the brakes, and switches that can't be reached are things that are hard to explain away.

I don't know why they didn't put them on the center console where thry used to put all the window switches in Saturns that at least was a convienent location.
I'd like to see either more gauges or have the dic improved to show battery voltage,oil pressure,etc call me old fashioned but I don't trust the car to tell me when somethings going wrong because by that time it's usually too late

Also a data interface bluetooth,wlan something. The radio and onstar doesn't need to be so proprietary.Dump the CD player and install a hard disk.

larry4pyro · 02-17-2008, 01:59 AM

I don't know what's coming for 2009, but I'm hoping Saturn and GM work on making evolutionary improvements to the Sky and Solstice. What am I talking about? Stuff like tweaking elements of the car to make it handle and feel even better, or small stuff in the interior to improve the functionality. Not necessarly big changes, but just small evolutionary changes that make the Sky just that little bit better.

Larry4pyro

BigSkyCountry · 02-17-2008, 03:45 AM

The window, mirror and lock switches need to be in the center console. As for the brakes, it's not endemic to the '08 RL. Mine are perfect. They work great if the car is just started. They work great if it's allowed to roll with the engine off from the night before('08 RL)...Ray

MidniteBlues · 02-17-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by larry4pyro

I don't know what's coming for 2009, but I'm hoping Saturn and GM work on making evolutionary improvements to the Sky and Solstice. What am I talking about? Stuff like tweaking elements of the car to make it handle and feel even better, or small stuff in the interior to improve the functionality. Not necessarily big changes, but just small evolutionary changes that make the Sky just that little bit better.

Larry4pyro

I'm with you!! I'm looking to buy a 2009. BUT if everything looks the same, functions the same, with all of the same problems and no improvements and some tweaks? I'll keep what I have thank ya, and wait for the 2010's... I'll keep my current sky till hell freezes over if they don't fix current problems (radio visiblity and gages as far as internal issues) and improve what they already know is a winning roadster.. Every little tweak helps IMO..

ebonysky · 04-09-2008, 03:53 AM

Missing oil pressure and voltmeter gauges is one of my main beef's about this car.

That and the useless cup holder's!

I would sure like to see those thing's corrected before 2011...not that it will do me much good.

Otherwise, the Sky RL has been a blast to drive.

SkyMan 08 · 04-09-2008, 07:54 AM

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02-12-2008, 07:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
archetype94306 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1 My Photos: (0)	Changes for 2009? Has anyone read or heard what changes are expected for the 2009 Sky? Specifically for the Red Line edition? Thanks!

02-13-2008, 11:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rick Tinley Park Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SW Suburbs of Chicago Posts: 4,819 My Photos: (11)	Very very minor stuff till 2011.... __________________ Find out about my radio show http://www.anj.westpm.net Founder: www.chicagolandroadsters.com Rick Tinley Park Delivered June 15, 2006 VIN - 3099 Sunburst Yellow Name - Sunni1 IL License # - YLO SKY 1

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compdoc777 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 593 My Photos: (6)	Some LED tail lights would not be bad. Navagation system would be awesome (and not the Onstar Navi we have now) More power and longer gears. Maybe just a 6 speed to replace the 5 speed. As soon as I get going the fun stops. __________________ 07 SKY Redline Silver Red/Black Leather, JPM Dash Red leather, WDE Carbon Fiber Dash Kit, BSR Tune, Fujita Intake, Dejon IC pipes, Hahn IC, 3" Magnaflow Quad Exhaust, DDM BBK (RED), BlackCatCustom Gauges. http://www.compdoc777.com/Carstuff/sky1.jpg

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parrothall Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Limerick, PA Posts: 25 My Photos: (3)	That is understandable about re-tooling of the plant. Especially with the current state of GM. What I would like to see though is the brake issue being resolved. That is one of the reasons I am holding out for an '09. The other is to see if Saturn/GM will come out with a tune as well. From what I've read, it sounds like a tune not only increases HP, but also fuel economy. With the high prices of gas and the pressure to make cars more fuel efficient, one would think that Saturn/GM would want to provide a tune. __________________ *Not all those who wander are lost* Now: '96 SL2 - 176K miles - all mine Finally have - 05/29/2008: '08 RL Forest Green Tan/Tan

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OKC08SKYR/L Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 47 My Photos: (0)	350whp and all wheel drive would be nice. __________________ 2008 Sky Redline - Silver Pearl - Chrome Wheels - Monsoon - Spoiler - Auto Trans - 01/19/08 2005 Crossfire SRT-6 (Sold) 2003 Mustang Cobra (Sold) 2001 WS6 Trans-Am (Sold)

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02-15-2008, 11:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
brenner46 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7 My Photos: (0)	Am dreaming of Sky RL ownership within the next year, and have read many forums. I'm concerned about brake issues, but come from the old era when cars had NO power brakes and you had to push like h--ll to emergency stop. Maybe we're a bit spoiled with powers, but turbo has no impact on start-up with whether brakes work or not, so am puzzled by GM's responses. Has to be the vaccuum valve. And at this point in my life (mortgage paid off, kids gone) I don't care any more about fuel prices. It's time for me to have some fun. Looking forward to the rubber-necking to see my new RL. And my I4 5-speed Cobalt is only averaging 27. The Sky averaging 23-26 is a much more stylish ride, and far more fun.

02-17-2008, 01:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
larry4pyro Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 140 My Photos: (0)	I don't know what's coming for 2009, but I'm hoping Saturn and GM work on making evolutionary improvements to the Sky and Solstice. What am I talking about? Stuff like tweaking elements of the car to make it handle and feel even better, or small stuff in the interior to improve the functionality. Not necessarly big changes, but just small evolutionary changes that make the Sky just that little bit better. Larry4pyro

02-17-2008, 03:45 AM	#18 (permalink)
BigSkyCountry Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wyoming Posts: 198 My Photos: (0)	The window, mirror and lock switches need to be in the center console. As for the brakes, it's not endemic to the '08 RL. Mine are perfect. They work great if the car is just started. They work great if it's allowed to roll with the engine off from the night before('08 RL)...Ray __________________ 2008 R/L with no cute little name... Stick, Midnight Blue, Black/Tan Leather Tan Top, Monsoon 6 Disc, Spoiler, Fujita CAI, MagnaFlow 3" CatBack, El Rancho red poly swaybar bushings ...and a block heater, unfortunately

04-09-2008, 03:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
ebonysky Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Napa, Calif. Posts: 341 My Photos: (0)	Missing oil pressure and voltmeter gauges is one of my main beef's about this car. That and the useless cup holder's! I would sure like to see those thing's corrected before 2011...not that it will do me much good. Otherwise, the Sky RL has been a blast to drive. __________________ WCKCC Member West Coast Kappa Car Club 2007 Sky RL triple black, auto, loaded bone stock an lovin' it.