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Old 07-09-2008, 05:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cold Air Intake???

Can anyone give me a good, reasonably intelligent answer as to whether there is any point of getting a CAI on my '08 Redline? I've heard if you already have a turbo, then there is no point. Will it only only add sound, or performance too?

If anyone could help, I'd appreciate it.

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there are alot of threads on this already if you do a search. General opinion is get a k&N replacement panel filter for the stock box. The stock box flows fine and doesn't suck up as much hot air from the engine compartment. Drill out the upper grill in front of the stock box inlet to get more cold air along with the ducts next to the headlights(you would never know, but they're there).They look and sound great, but overal you aren't going to get much if any gains with a cai. It really comes down to personal taste. If they get one that is guarenteed not to throw codes and is properly shrouded so it can only get outside air, then maybe i would get it....there are alot of details covered in the threads, so my stements are not complete, but the jist you now have.
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For me, the polished intake (and polished intercooler pipes) really dress up the engine compartment. I hated the look of the crimped, nasty intercooler pipes and all the plastic junk over the radiator. Now it is all clean and polished and very impressive looking. (Plus it sounds great, too!)

So when considering, don't forget the aesthetics...
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I have one. To be honest, I got it just so that I could hear the sound of the diverter valve. The intake temp in stop and go traffic definitely increases dramatically. However, while cruising, intake temps are only 1 or 2 degrees over ambient. I like quarter mile and while in the staging lanes, I keep the hood up to keep the intake air temperature down.
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Since our cars are intercooled does it really even matter if the intake temps go up a few degrees, since the air is just going to get SUPERheated by the turbo anyways?? Then the air will go to the intercooler and get cooled down... It's just my guess but wouldn't seem right that if, for example, stock intake air goes in at 98 degrees and Performance Intake air goes in at lets say 104 degrees won't that same air go through the turbo and get heated to lets say 250 degrees no matter what and then get cooled down to whatever the intercooler can get it down to?? Any thought?? MAX
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Can anyone give me a good, reasonably intelligent answer as to whether there is any point of getting a CAI on my '08 Redline? I've heard if you already have a turbo, then there is no point. Will it only only add sound, or performance too?

If anyone could help, I'd appreciate it.

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I got my Fujita for a few reasons
1) It does dress up the engine compartment some aesthetically
2) I like the sound
3) And mainly, it is one step in many of increasing the performance of the car. By itself, I don't think it adds anything. Coupled with the Magnaflow, still no help. Next are the polished and mandrel bent IC pipes, which will probably still add nothing as far as HP goes.
Then the new intercooler comes in, which will benefit from the added free flowing intake and exhaust to increase horsepower.
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Where did you guys get the mandrel bent polished IC pipes. I have the GM CAI but I can't find a set of IC pipes for the Sky.
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Dejon makes IC pipes, others as well.
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From Dejon, is it better to go with the steel or aluminum IC pipes? Why would I want to spend the extra $$$ for the aluminum ones? Is weight savings the only advantage?
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Where did you guys get the mandrel bent polished IC pipes. I have the GM CAI but I can't find a set of IC pipes for the Sky.
I got mine from KappaSphere...
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I just heard from Hahn that the Fujita Intake causes problems with the RL car due to a faulty Intake design. My car is experiencing a air/fuel problem when I got WOT (Wide open throttle) if I back off a little the car takes off like lightening. The people from Hahn say the way the MAS airflow is positioned in the CAI is incorrect and causing the car to read the air incorrectly. I am going to take my CAI out and test this weekend.

If this is truley the problem I am going to ask for a redesigned pipe or a refund.
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For me, the polished intake (and polished intercooler pipes) really dress up the engine compartment. I hated the look of the crimped, nasty intercooler pipes and all the plastic junk over the radiator. Now it is all clean and polished and very impressive looking. (Plus it sounds great, too!)

So when considering, don't forget the aesthetics...
I agree with JohnD,,,,I have the 2.4 though and not the turbo.
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I just heard from Hahn that the Fujita Intake causes problems with the RL car due to a faulty Intake design. My car is experiencing a air/fuel problem when I got WOT (Wide open throttle) if I back off a little the car takes off like lightening. The people from Hahn say the way the MAS airflow is positioned in the CAI is incorrect and causing the car to read the air incorrectly. I am going to take my CAI out and test this weekend.

If this is truley the problem I am going to ask for a redesigned pipe or a refund.
heard anything about the dejon? i just installed mine today, although i really cant hear the turbo much more, i can really hear the cbv when i shift. im really not liking the aem dryflow too much. seems too thin, like water will get through when it rains. i cant find a filter wrap for it though. ima prolly switch it out for a k&n and filterwrap then do a grille mod while adding a mesh grille to make it look better.
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heard anything about the dejon? i just installed mine today, although i really cant hear the turbo much more, i can really hear the cbv when i shift. im really not liking the aem dryflow too much. seems too thin, like water will get through when it rains. i cant find a filter wrap for it though. ima prolly switch it out for a k&n and filterwrap then do a grille mod while adding a mesh grille to make it look better.

I have the GMPP Intake for the Redline and it has a nice Orange filterwrap AND a shroud/cover to keep H2O from dripping on it when the hood is opened or seeps into the hood and grill area. I'm not sure what brand the filter is though. MAX
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im prolly gonna switch my filter with an amsfoil, supposedly they dont need filter wraps due to the design and material of the filter. you supposedly can spray it with a water hose and not get water in the filter. im prolly gonna get it and a filter wrap, just to be safe cause the aem filter i have now seems VERY thin and seems like water will get in VERY easily. i would just get a wrap but they dont make wraps for their filters.
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looks better and sounds better and each gear after second has a little more at the end just before shift

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I just heard from Hahn that the Fujita Intake causes problems with the RL car due to a faulty Intake design. My car is experiencing a air/fuel problem when I got WOT (Wide open throttle) if I back off a little the car takes off like lightening. The people from Hahn say the way the MAS airflow is positioned in the CAI is incorrect and causing the car to read the air incorrectly. I am going to take my CAI out and test this weekend.

If this is truley the problem I am going to ask for a redesigned pipe or a refund.

Well, I changed over to the stock AIR-BOX from the CAI. The car does not seem to have as bad of a problem in accelleration. Yet, it still has a little the Intake is not as loud and the exhaust note does sound better now.

I will take it out on the freeway tomorrow and see if it is truely running better. If so then it seems like Fujita may have a defective product.
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I took it out on the freeway today and burned a couple of dough nuts in the parking lot.

The car is back and faster than ever. The people from Hahn were right the Fujita is designed poorly for the turbo application and is robbing horse power and torque. Not by flow, but not reading flow properly.

Can't wait until Hahn unleashes the turbo upgrade.
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I have done so much searching here and on the solstice forum and it really is tough to get a straight answer on what is better.
What I believe I see is the following
The 2 best choices are either

K&N replacement with stock Airbox
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GMPP CAI

In my research it seems like some people think one is better at times and others think the other is better for certain setups, but I had trouble determining which it is.

From a Visual point of view I think the GMPP CAI is just sexy. As long as it isn't robbing me of power, I am eventually going to go with that.
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I have done so much searching here and on the solstice forum and it really is tough to get a straight answer on what is better.
What I believe I see is the following
The 2 best choices are either

K&N replacement with stock Airbox
or
GMPP CAI

In my research it seems like some people think one is better at times and others think the other is better for certain setups, but I had trouble determining which it is.

From a Visual point of view I think the GMPP CAI is just sexy. As long as it isn't robbing me of power, I am eventually going to go with that.
Well if the GMPP CAI causes a loss of power then at least you have the GM company to get your money back.
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I have done so much searching here and on the solstice forum and it really is tough to get a straight answer on what is better.
What I believe I see is the following
The 2 best choices are either

K&N replacement with stock Airbox
or
GMPP CAI

In my research it seems like some people think one is better at times and others think the other is better for certain setups, but I had trouble determining which it is.

From a Visual point of view I think the GMPP CAI is just sexy. As long as it isn't robbing me of power, I am eventually going to go with that.
dont get the k&n, it doesnt flow as good as the stock filter plus you get worse gas mileage. the ONLY benefit it gives is not having to replace it. i got 2mpg less at all speeds. yeah i was truly dissapointed by it, k&n is so much better than that. i loved the typhoon cai on my ion rl.
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