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Old 04-17-2017, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I jumped another car incorrectly...

A few days ago, my cousin needed to jump his car. Not thinking, I told him to set the cables and that I would be out in a few. I learned my lesson, believe me.

When I went outside, he had placed the cables on the fuse box (negative and positive).

The car turned on fine I checked my electronics, everything looks fine. The next day in the morning I turn on my car and got the CEL. I ran the codes ( I got two and I think one of them was p048) I assume I blew a fuse. The car turned on fine drove it to work, car didn't overheat , and all electronics seem to be working fine.

Do you guys think this incident will cause problems in the future or do you think the car will be fine?
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What do you mean placed the cables on the fuse box? As long as pos. was to pos and neg was to neg or ground you should be fine.
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What do you mean placed the cables on the fuse box? As long as pos. was to pos and neg was to neg or ground you should be fine.
Yes the fuse box directly on top of the battery contains a negative and positive terminal. He had placed the clamps on these. I'm not sure if he even connected them properly as I just pulled them off in a hurry. I do assume they were placed incorrectly though because of the CEL.
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The terminals on the fuse block are not negative and positive. One is the positive battery terminal but the other is .... something .... that I can't think of right now. Whatever it is is something the 2.0 has but the 2.4 doesn't.

A common mistake has been to try jumping from the wrong terminal and blowing the fuse that protects it.
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The terminals on the fuse block are not negative and positive. One is the positive battery terminal but the other is .... something .... that I can't think of right now. Whatever it is is something the 2.0 has but the 2.4 doesn't.

A common mistake has been to try jumping from the wrong terminal and blowing the fuse that protects it.
In other words, In my case, whether or not the cables were connected correctly on the fuse box, the most damage will be a blown fuse?
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If he connected the pos to the neg and neg to the pos, the car would not have started, and other things might have been damaged. The fact he started the started the car, pretty much tells you he had pos to pos. Just ran out to mine, yes if he took the cover off there is another neg connection coming in from somewhere, the cover covers it so not what they want you to use (probably has a fuse on it and if you put to much current through it will pop). But yeah I would say the worst that happened is a fuse popped, but all in all not really that big a deal. The pos. terminal there is meant to be used to jump the car, they don't provide a neg since you can grab just about anything thats metal.
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The second terminal on the fuse lock is a positive that powers the LNF cooling fan and is protected by Fuse 1 (60A). There is a metal tab on the side of the engine very near the fuse block that has a (-) embossed in it, and is the intended negative connection for jumping or being jumped.

I would be hesitant to just "grab anything that is metal" because it won't have a direct connection to the heavy-gauge battery cables intended to start the engine.

Yes, the most damage you are likely to have done is blown the fuse, but there is always the possibility of more, although as far as I can remember, the only damage that has been reported in the past is a blown fuse.
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If he connected the pos to the neg and neg to the pos, the car would not have started, and other things might have been damaged. The fact he started the started the car, pretty much tells you he had pos to pos. Just ran out to mine, yes if he took the cover off there is another neg connection coming in from somewhere, the cover covers it so not what they want you to use (probably has a fuse on it and if you put to much current through it will pop). But yeah I would say the worst that happened is a fuse popped, but all in all not really that big a deal. The pos. terminal there is meant to be used to jump the car, they don't provide a neg since you can grab just about anything thats metal.
Actually, the neg connection is on the passenger side of the engine's head. It is part of the exhaust manifold cover and should be marked GND I believe...

John beat me to this while I was looking for a photo of it. LOL
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Actually, the neg connection is on the passenger side of the engine's head. It is part of the exhaust manifold cover and should be marked GND I believe...

John beat me to this while I was looking for a photo of it. LOL
It is marked "GND", but under the engine cover where it is rather hard to see. What I have always thought was a (-) is more likely a rib to keep the clamp from slipping off.

The big terminal goes to the LNF cooling fan, and it is protected by Fuse 1.
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Thanks to those who replied and giving me some piece of mind. A few notes:


Driving home with traffic, the car temp went up to 214 F . Luckily it was right next to my house and I parked it and shut off the car.

I'm going to replace the fuse, reset the CEL and and update the post. Thanks again!
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Give us the codes that are in the ECM. Also going up to 214 may not be something to worry much about if it is hot and you're sitting in a lot of stop and go traffic.
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It is marked "GND", but under the engine cover where it is rather hard to see. What I have always thought was a (-) is more likely a rib to keep the clamp from slipping off.

The big terminal goes to the LNF cooling fan, and it is protected by Fuse 1.
Ah, I just looked and didn't see anything and was wondering if it was under the cover. Was going to ask for a pic.
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I've been running without a cover for so long I forgot that it was tucked under there.
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Give us the codes that are in the ECM. Also going up to 214 may not be something to worry much about if it is hot and you're sitting in a lot of stop and go traffic.
P0691
P0480

True, but my car never goes over 202 even with South Florida's crazy hot weather lol.
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P0691: Cooling Fan 1 Relay Control Circuit Low
P0480: Cooling Fan Relay 1 Control Circuit

Have you changed the fuse? It is one of the cartridge-type fuses, and not one that many people keep as spares.
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