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Old 07-09-2006, 07:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Saturn RL Comparision

I have updated the redline comparison for 2009you can view the new comparison at

http://richdesignndevelop.com/wholes...dstercomp1.htm


There has been some talk about the Sky RL being to expensive and they may just as well get a S2000, BMW Z4 or Datsun Z. So I put together a comparison of the Saturn Sky Redline vs Comparable Roadsters (Not including looks ).

I used the compare vehicles features at Saturn.com. I then updated the Sky's statisitcs to reflect a fully loaded from the factory Sky RL. I then visited the three other cars websites to get a list of features that were not included in the compare. Since the base price of the others roadsters were 4-6k above a fully loaded RL, l felt it a fair comparision.

Note, since this basically a price versus features list, I kept the comparison to yes/no. These other roadsters may have more options or a better optional stereo, but they are not included in the base price.

If you feel I missed something please let me know and I will update it.

Saturn RL vs "Similarily priced" Roadster

I personally feel that for extra features of the other cars do not match the added price any more than a certain dealers 9000.00 Performance package does.

Updated: 0/7/2006 1:30 PDT. (Thanks KappaMan)
Added detailed wheel info.
Added Ipod integration
Added A/V Jack

The Model Names are now links to thier site where I got the info.

Thanks for making this a sticky post.
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Great job!!! very informative. Thank you for all your hard work.
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So, I take it that you used "loaded" vehicle comparisons, right?

There are a few things that I've found useful that don't exist for any of the others, like the AUX port for all stereos in the Solstice/SKY (so I can play an IPOD, or a Sirius Portable or XM Roady, OR ANYTHING that has a 1/8" output.

You might want to label the Z4 to "Z4 2.5i" as distinguished from the 3.0i and another $8,000 and similar power to the RL.
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So, I take it that you used "loaded" vehicle comparisons, right?

There are a few things that I've found useful that don't exist for any of the others, like the AUX port for all stereos in the Solstice/SKY (so I can play an IPOD, or a Sirius Portable or XM Roady, OR ANYTHING that has a 1/8" output.

You might want to label the Z4 to "Z4 2.5i" as distinguished from the 3.0i and another $8,000 and similar power to the RL.
Actually I used a Loaded Sky RL against the base of the other vehicles. Since the base of these vehicles are at the lowest $4,000.00 more I felt that was a fair comparison.

I did this to find out how a Sky Redline stacks up to the other cars per dollar, since heard some say for the price of the redline they may as well get a S2000, Z4, etc.. Well my chart shows I can get a fully loaded RL that includes quite a bit more than any of these cars for 4,000.00 less.

I will update the audio jack. If anyone knows of anything else let me know.

I guess I could include the AFBTs. Or possibly the White Drool Funnels, but nobody drools over those car like they do the Sky
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How about wheel size?

IIRC - 18" X 8" is standard for the SKY RL, 17" only for the Z4, 17" only for the S2000, and

I don't think you get chromed wheels for the Z4, S2000, or the 350Z, but at that price I think you DO for the SKY RL. The tire is 225 wide for the 350 Z roadster, but 18". Tire for SRL is 245, 225 for the Z4 and S2000... Advantage on the "shoes" = SKY Red Line.

Powered top on Z4, S2000 - I assume the 350Z roadster is also powered, whereas SRL is not.
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Interesting stuff. I compared these and a few others over the winter as options when considering deferring or completely walking away from the Sky.
While the base Sky may not compare to these to most folks and cost wasn't a determining factor, although price was, I had one more criteria which swung the difference.

S2000 - Not a Sky
BMW Z4 - Not a Sky
350Z - Not a Sky

I think K-Man has a tag line for this one.
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i think the olny thing where gm is lacking is in the warentee department. comon at least a 60/60,000 warentee power train
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Interesting stuff. I compared these and a few others over the winter as options when considering deferring or completely walking away from the Sky.
While the base Sky may not compare to these to most folks and cost wasn't a determining factor, although price was, I had one more criteria which swung the difference.

S2000 - Not a Sky
BMW Z4 - Not a Sky
350Z - Not a Sky

I think K-Man has a tag line for this one.
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So, I take it that you used "loaded" vehicle comparisons, right?

There are a few things that I've found useful that don't exist for any of the others, like the AUX port for all stereos in the Solstice/SKY (so I can play an IPOD, or a Sirius Portable or XM Roady, OR ANYTHING that has a 1/8" output.

You might want to label the Z4 to "Z4 2.5i" as distinguished from the 3.0i and another $8,000 and similar power to the RL.
This is the 3.0i I did not see a 2.5i listed on the BMWUSA site.
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This is the 3.0i I did not see a 2.5i listed on the BMWUSA site.
2006 MY Z4 no longer offers a 2.5i, they have a 3.0i and 3.0Si. The new 3.0i is lower power and torque then last years 2005 MY 3.0i engine.
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nice chart - a couple corrections..

s2k definitely comes with leather, but no mp3 or sub

what is "universal a/v jack"? aux audio input makes more sense - there is no video...
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nice chart - a couple corrections..

s2k definitely comes with leather, but no mp3 or sub

what is "universal a/v jack"? aux audio input makes more sense - there is no video...
Thanks I will make those Corrections
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Thanks for putting so much time into this. I wondered how the competition spec'd up.

Good thing you didn't include a category for looks. There is no comparison.
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Another Update.
I added pictures of the cars. I also colored coded the features to make it easier to see where the Sky RL has the advantage and where it does not.

I am thinking of adding pages where I do Head to Head comparison, so you can see what you get and don't get for the $4,000.00 plus Roadster.

As informative as it is, I think Cerberus has broke it down the best. The others are not a SKY
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Very, very nice! Maybe add a Sol GXP?
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