HP Tuners v.2.2.0 now available

[Blue04RedLine]

For the people looking to modify the 2.0 LNF motors, that task just got a little easier (provided you actually know what you're doing) and seems like it will keep becoming easier as HPT releases subsequent updates.

GM Solstice/Sky 2.0L Turbo support
Tuning support for the 2.0L turbo Solstice/Sky engine wasn't available until we announced support for it during our beta testing program earlier this year. This general release provides basic tuning support for the engine, with more enhancements such as turbo boost control parameters and 5spd automatic transmission planned for future releases.
- 07 Pontiac Solstice 2.0 Turbo
- 07 Saturn Sky 2.0 Turbo

HPT is a really powerful tuning tool generally, and can be as hurtful as helpful. Just remember the general rule if you buy the program, if you don't know what the parameter is, just leave it alone till you find out. Have fun and happy tuning

[Drivetime]

I wish I had the equipment and knowledge to tweak the parameters... some day. Interesting that the second generation will allow for boost control. I wonder if the vendors offering the HPT based tune will change the parameters of their tunes to take advantage of it. It's doubtful our 2.0 comes from the factory tuned for max. performance in that area. Some of the current users pointed toward leaving the boost alone as a great thing. Time will tell. If the increased parameters give one tune a big advantage over the other, that will just be another reason to spend more $$$ again

[Blue04RedLine]

Well I see the biggest advantage of the HPT software being the fact that you won't have to buy a canned tune. We've found out (the hard way) in the ION RL community that canned tunes CAN be good, but can also be very bad. With HPT, you can either learn yourself, or find a tuner in your area who can tailor make the tune for your car, even using one of the canned tunes as a base to start with.

[GM Roadster Club]

GM Roadster is aware of this and we are currently finishing up a level 1 Tune for the Solstice GXP and Sky Redline. We have not set a price on this yet but It will be very affordable to our Club Members. Log onto the GM Roadster web site and stay tuned for more information on the release of the 2.0 Turbo Tune!

Martin Scott-GMR

[RPIpower]

We have been and are on it. We will be offering a free dyno tune for those willing to step up and let us test the new software update.

[Skykid]

I'm on my way!!!!

[VooDooNOFX]

Originally Posted by Blue04RedLine

Well I see the biggest advantage of the HPT software being the fact that you won't have to buy a canned tune. We've found out (the hard way) in the ION RL community that canned tunes CAN be good, but can also be very bad. With HPT, you can either learn yourself, or find a tuner in your area who can tailor make the tune for your car, even using one of the canned tunes as a base to start with.

Are you advocating that beginner and novice users attempt to purchase this software to tune their own cars? I would say you'll have more engines exploding than cars that are actually faster. Leave it to the pros.

--Steven

[Blue04RedLine]

Originally Posted by VooDooNOFX

Are you advocating that beginner and novice users attempt to purchase this software to tune their own cars? I would say you'll have more engines exploding than cars that are actually faster. Leave it to the pros.

--Steven

By the fact that I said "you can learn yourself, or find a tuner in your area" i would say that I was advocating being informed and LEARNING how to tune if someone wanted to do it themselves. There's quite a bit to learn, but if a bunch of early-mid 20 year olds can learn how to use the software in a positive manner, I don't doubt that people who have been around cars for a lot longer will have any harder of a time learning. People know what they can/can't do. They know if they understand what knock and detonation are. The know if they understand the way the internal combustion engine, especially direct injected, works. If someone wants to learn, then yes I advocate them learning. How do you think people become "pros?" They were all novices that more than likely started tuning their own cars. If someone is willing to put in the time to learn then there is no reason they can't do it. I also said if they didn't feel comfortable with their own knowledge, then they can find a tuner in their area.

[Skykid]

As I remember it, most guys who bought the HPT software for the ION RL's were successful overall in developing their own tunes. Most were not pro's but followed the advice of Spooner, Dan, and others. If you data log your runs and get with those that have some expertise, you can as a novice learn a great deal and eventually tune your car. How is everyone in the IRL community doing as far as their tunes? I haven't heard of anyone blowing an engine yet? What about Alphajaguar?

[seal9]

Well I will find out I just received my HPtuners pro and am working my way thru it. It's very interesting.....I having allot of fun....seal9

[MidniteBlues]

Where can one buy this S/W? how much?

[Blue04RedLine]

Originally Posted by Skykid

As I remember it, most guys who bought the HPT software for the ION RL's were successful overall in developing their own tunes. Most were not pro's but followed the advice of Spooner, Dan, and others. If you data log your runs and get with those that have some expertise, you can as a novice learn a great deal and eventually tune your car. How is everyone in the IRL community doing as far as their tunes? I haven't heard of anyone blowing an engine yet? What about Alphajaguar?

Spooner isn't around much anymore, dan is right in the middle of a full build (p&p head, full titanium valve train, forged pistons, cams, and turbo swap), and Corey(alphajag) had a dead cyl #4, more due to fueling issues than tuning. Alpha has since had his head ported, cams installed with the titanium valve train, and also higher comp (10.0:1 iirc) forged pistons, along with a 3.0" pully which we've found runs better along side the higher comp pistons.

As an example of how you can learn this software, AlphaJaguar5 (a member on redlineforums) is 20 years old and been learning for over a year. Now, he has tuned his car the best he can, so he decides to let the "pros" try and tune the car more. He brings the car to Diablo Motorsports in West Palm, Florida. The professional tuners who are renowned for their abilities at Diablo are only able to pull out and additional 20whp in 4 hours of dyno tuning over what Alpha was able to extract through his own tuning. People can learn this software, and do great things with it without being a "pro."

Originally Posted by MidniteBlues

Where can one buy this S/W? how much?

The HPTuners (dot com) website should be able to answer that information.

[Skykid]

Not to totally jack this thread, but what numbers are you guys putting down now? Is anyone at or above that elusive 300whp mark?

[MidniteBlues]

Well, very disappointed in the fact that the 2.4L Auto - IS NOT SUPPORTED. What is it, or why is the auto so hard to tune? I don't git it-- On a positive note, my H2 6.0L is, however, I wanted this tuner for both--with the auto not being supported, they are currently out for the moment. IF the 2.0L Auto is not supported either, they are leaving a lot of business on the side of the road. I will not buy a stick so I can spend more money for a simple tune--sad but true-- I will keep an eye on them thar tuners, hopefully one day they will care of the automatic guys also, after all, we wip the stick guys on the drag every day--

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by MidniteBlues

Well, very disappointed in the fact that the 2.4L Auto - IS NOT SUPPORTED. What is it, or why is the auto so hard to tune? I don't git it-- On a positive note, my H2 6.0L is, however, I wanted this tuner for both--with the auto not being supported, they are currently out for the moment. IF the 2.0L Auto is not supported either, they are leaving a lot of business on the side of the road. I will not buy a stick so I can spend more money for a simple tune--sad but true-- I will keep an eye on them thar tuners, hopefully one day they will care of the automatic guys also, after all, we wip the stick guys on the drag every day--

You can tune the 2.4 auto, you just cant tune anything with the TCM. Going to FI on the 2.4 auto is tricky though. The amount of auto owners that want to tune is few though.

[Blue04RedLine]

As for the auto trans, it's not supported, YET. I do believe they are trying to work on it. A company such as HPTuners knows what kind of market there is out there, and they don't want to alienate half of the market in a particular car because of a thing like that.

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by Blue04RedLine

As for the auto trans, it's not supported, YET. I do believe they are trying to work on it. A company such as HPTuners knows what kind of market there is out there, and they don't want to alienate half of the market in a particular car because of a thing like that.

I've personally tuned a few skys with automatic transmissions via HP TUNERS. You can tune it but you just cant change shifting points and delay, etc.

[Blue04RedLine]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

I've personally tuned a few skys with automatic transmissions via HP TUNERS. You can tune it but you just cant change shifting points and delay, etc.

Yeah, that would be what I meant. You can tune the motor, but support for actually tuning the trans isn't out, yet. Iirc though, the guys at HPT are working on that right now.

[ceeker]

Originally Posted by Blue04RedLine

Well I see the biggest advantage of the HPT software being the fact that you won't have to buy a canned tune. We've found out (the hard way) in the ION RL community that canned tunes CAN be good, but can also be very bad. With HPT, you can either learn yourself, or find a tuner in your area who can tailor make the tune for your car, even using one of the canned tunes as a base to start with.

When you say "canned tunes" I assume you mean the software comes with pre-done tunes, correct?

Can you save your existing tune so you can revert back to it?

I have experience in programming, but not this kind of stuff. Am I getting in over my head with this? I have never tuned a car before, so is this something a beginner could do?