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No Lift Shift-Tell me about it!

Hey folks. Bought a 07 RL with 32K miles and pristine condition.



Seriously looking at the turbo upgrade kit Item #19212670HK from CED. Not planning to go much further but any comments/suggestions on a CAI would be appreciated.

I am also interested in comments regarding any change in drivability after the upgrade. Wife will be driving it and I don't want her to have any issues.

Finally, I would like to hear about the 'no lift shift' feature. Whats it like?

Thanks all,

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It's a feature where you shift without lifting the gas[You still need to use the clutch] at a specific RPM.
I am blanking at what RPM
If you are going to limit yourself to a tune, but not swap out the cat, and exhaust, Doing a CAI does not net you any performance. Just sound and looks.

Does the Part# you included from CED include the quick connect adapters for the new 3 bar sensors? If not, make sure you get that one.

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No change in driveability, but many have reported improved gas mileage (as long as you keep your foot from being too heavy!)

The no-lift-shift is fine, but not something you would do (or WANT to do) on a day to day basis. Great for the drag strip, though.

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No change in driveability, but many have reported improved gas mileage (as long as you keep your foot from being too heavy!)

The no-lift-shift is fine, but not something you would do (or WANT to do) on a day to day basis. Great for the drag strip, though.
Or Autocross...LOL

I need to look into the LE5's computer and see if we have that kind of feature there. I've been too busy trying to figure out why my O2 sensor won't work with HPTuners right now.


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Hey Folks! Update:

I purchased the Trifecta Budget Tune and installed it last week while in SW FL.

I wounds up giving my wife the Red Cable for a Christmas gift. She was so excited and told everyone I gave her Torque for Christmas!!!

Install was straightforward. Took our Redline for what turned out to be an extended test drive. It was tricky to watch the boost display while driving but it wokred out well.

Also got to try the No Lift Shift feature. It is not easy untraining your brain and foot to NOT come off the (wide open) throttle, but it works and what a thrill..

Wife and I are very happy with the new power under the hood!

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Glad you and the wife like it Mike. It's a hell of a performance upgrade.


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Sounds like a replacement downpipe is another good upgrade. Anyone have experience with this? I am worried about breaking studs...

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I know I'm not an LNF car but I did sleep at a Residence Inn last night...


...Oh, and use an LNF downpipe on my K04 (LNF's) turbo. LOL

You have to be careful removing the bolts that connect the turbo to the downpipe. Be sure to hit them with penetrating oil and let them soak before hand.

The studs that connect the downpipe to the exhaust can also be tricky but you should have new ones of those that come with the new downpipe so IF they fail, it shouldn't be as big of a problem. Again, penetrating oil is your friend on those too.


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Changing out the down pipe some found to be tricky and had to lift the thus remove that
I have done it twice and found if you twist and turn in the cirr4ct way no need to doing anything but lift the car to get to it and drop it out the bottom

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Trifecta has "No lift-Shift" component to it? I thought that was just the GMPP tune??

Anyways, the stock cat/down pipe can be removed as cityboy states by positioning the pipe just right and screwing it out. Holding your tongue when you don't position it just right is optional. It did seem the well placed curse words helped me more than it helped in removing the cat.
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Trifecta has "No lift-Shift" component to it? I thought that was just the GMPP tune??
I was also under the impression that the NLS was available only with the GMPP tune...
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Trifecta has "No lift-Shift" component to it? I thought that was just the GMPP tune??
The other aftermarket tuners reverse-engineered the NLS from the GMPP tune. I think pretty much all of them have it there now (certainly HPT does).
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The other aftermarket tuners reverse-engineered the NLS from the GMPP tune. I think pretty much all of them have it there now (certainly HPT does).
Interesting. I wonder if Trifecta offers an upgrade for those of us that have had the tune since before they offered it with NLS...
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