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Old 01-04-2013, 04:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Service Recommended Injector Cleaning: BS or not?

Ok, I took the wife's Redline in for an oil change and when I paid the bill the service writer said they were recommending a 25000 mile injector cleaning. I asked if this was a GM recommendation and he said yes. But it sure doesn't appear in my owners manual. And I don't recall that being recommended on my car when it hit 25,000 (my car still had free service at that time).

I questioned him as to what the process is and he stated that they disconnect the fuel system, attach a machine and it runs a cleaner through the fuel system and injectors.

Personally, I don't like the idea of them screwing with the fuel system on these cars. And I have searched both forums a bunch, but could not find any definitive recommendation of this procedure.

The "Work Estimate" shows a part number of GMBG2190 with a price of $52.83, which I assume is the cleaner. And then another $76.00 for labor and $15.20 for shop supplies.

So my questions are:
Has anyone had this done?
If so, did you notice any difference in performance afterwards?
Can any of our GM Employee Forum Members confirm that this is an actual GM recommended service?
Or is this just a local service department trying to drum up work?

Thanks for the help.
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So my questions are:
Has anyone had this done?
If so, did you notice any difference in performance afterwards?
Can any of our GM Employee Forum Members confirm that this is an actual GM recommended service?
Or is this just a local service department trying to drum up work?

Thanks for the help.
I think we have a winner up above in boldface.

Seriously, I can't find that procedure in any of my owners manuals.

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The "Work Estimate" shows a part number of GMBG2190 with a price of $52.83, which I assume is the cleaner. And then another $76.00 for labor and $15.20 for shop supplies.
You GOTTA be kidding! If they are doing a fuel injector clean, that means they are just dumping cleaner into the fuel tank... and charging you $76+$15 for all that 'effort'! Even the $53 for the cleaner is hugely overpriced. There's no other way of cleaning the injectors without removing them (and that would cost a bunch more than this).

Just DIY if you want to do this, see the thread over on the Sol Forum... Intake sludge - Pontiac Solstice Forum
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Just put in some Stabil once in a while and your injectors will be fine
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See this (read the last page): http://acdelcotechconnect.com/pdf/tsb/tsb_05D-105.pdf


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ACDelco X66P Upper Engine and Fuel Injector Cleaner : Amazon.com : Automotive ACDelco X66P Upper Engine and Fuel Injector Cleaner : Amazon.com : Automotive
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It sounds like BS to me but call Devin and ask him. He will tell you the facts.
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Interesting that DaimlerChrysler is mentioned. My DaimlerChrysler built pickup has 182,000 miles on it and has never had a problem with the fuel system. I use Exxon gas, and occaisionally (NOT every oil change) put in some fuel system cleaner.
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Thanks for the replies, everyone:

We already run top tier premium in both Redlines. And I also already put in a bottle of GM Fuel Treatment Plus once or twice a year, in both cars.

So I really don't think I am going to agree to their "recommended service".

I also did go back through all the service sheets on my car, and they never did the "injector service". Which I find interesting considering my car has an "extended free service" as compensation from GM for the rather long period of issues I experienced when new. Odd that they didn't mention this supposed "GM recommended Service of Injectors" when they were obligated to provide "all service for free", isn't it?

Since I can find no "official" recommendation from GM anywhere to have this process done, I am going to say no thanks.
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It sounds like BS to me but call Devin and ask him. He will tell you the facts.
Rob: Please PM me his number. I might give him a call next week, just out of curiosity.
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They just trying to drum up business.
Dump the Gm cleaner or Seafoam into the gas every once in a while and you will be fine
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ran mine to 88k... never used any of the "miracle potions" that everyone sells.

Just run it until you have a problem. then consider remedies
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Hell
The fuel rail with injectors is under $300
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You GOTTA be kidding! If they are doing a fuel injector clean, that means they are just dumping cleaner into the fuel tank... and charging you $76+$15 for all that 'effort'! Even the $53 for the cleaner is hugely overpriced. There's no other way of cleaning the injectors without removing them (and that would cost a bunch more than this).

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I think we have a winner up above in boldface.

Seriously, I can't find that procedure in any of my owners manuals.

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Thanks for the replies, everyone:

So I really don't think I am going to agree to their "recommended service".

...Odd that they didn't mention this supposed "GM recommended Service of Injectors" when they were obligated to provide "all service for free", isn't it?

Since I can find no "official" recommendation from GM anywhere to have this process done, I am going to say no thanks.
When I took mine into the dealer for the Camshaft Position Solenoid problem I also had some of the 30K service done (which by itself was a bit of the service dept looking for work since our manual only has service every 25K). They said something about fuel system cleaning, and mentioned a procedure like the one your described. I politely declined. The owner's manual doesn't say anything anywhere about fuel system cleaning. It mentions it briefly in the fuel section but says:

To provide cleaner air, all gasolines in the United States
are now required to contain additives that help prevent
engine and fuel system deposits from forming, allowing
the emission control system to work properly. In most
cases, you should not have to add anything to the fuel...
...To help keep fuel injectors and intake valves clean,
or if your vehicle experiences problems due to dirty
injectors or valves, look for gasoline that is advertised
as TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline. Also, your dealer/retailer
has additives that will help correct and prevent most
deposit-related problems.

Now, the real world sometimes doesn't cooperate, but I'd say if you're not having problems you can trace back to the fuel system, and you always use decent gasoline you should not ever need to pay your Stealer for unneccesary fuel system cleaning.
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I'm not sure I want pure injector cleaner squirted directly into the cylinders of my car.
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The fuel rail with injectors is under $300
Where? Please share
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