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Old 04-11-2008, 10:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It finaly happened I hit the track

It finally happened we went to the track and although the Stang didn't race I went up against the GranTorino and crushed him Well not really but I did win (only because I was faster on the start) and thats all that matters. I didn't get to run the eclipse but he ended up beating the Torino to. again due to the launch. The Eclipes and I would have been a good race I was only tenths behind and ahead in the three points of measurement although I did have a higher speed I think he would have been right on me up until the end. the results were as follows.

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1/8 10.595
Mph 64.85

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1/8 10.804
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The Mph was bad because I reved out in third due to having it in L and not I. So my next run was higher in the Mph my 1/8 was 10.379 and the Mph was 68.88
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Good job that is the great thing about Kappa's, they get underestimated and POW BANG you kick their butt.

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Well I was not happy about the Mph I was expecting more, so that kinda bummed me out but it was a good run. I plan on going and working on my launch times since that is the only thing I have control over, I would like to see how the different methods of taking off will work to get me better or worst times. I was playing around with the heal toe thing and the gas is just not quit in the right spot to really get a good placement and my right foot is so slow that the double footing may detract from my time, but I am going to keep trying. I also am going to put my stock wheels and tires back on to see it that will make a difference. Q. Are the times I have very good for a Auto 2.4 or are they slow
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I also am going to put my stock wheels and tires back on to see it that will make a difference. Q. Are the times I have very good for a Auto 2.4 or are they slow
I was going to tell you to take off those monstrosities for the race!
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I would have thought the torino would have more torque off the line because of the V8. It must be because it takes a lot to get the tuna boat moving.

The 2.4 Sky is rated to do 0-60mph in around 7.3s and you were at 66mph @ 10.6s. I have never took my sky to the strip but it looks like you could gain a couple of seconds.

Congradulations on whipping the Torino.
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Way to represent man! Nicely done.
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Q. Are the times I have very good for a Auto 2.4 or are they slow
Congratulations on your new addiction!
The good news is you can make up a lot of time in your RT, without spending anything more than an entrance fee.
Heel/toe is not the way to go. You need to use both feet.
http://www.staginglight.com/guide/react.html
Try this link and explore there. I need under a .200 to feel ok, and shoot for under .100.
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Yeah X they are big and heavy not what you would call racing wheels but they sure are purdy

Red So that short of an R/T is possible, wow the place were I went people there were really slow most were still sitting when the light was green and I thought why aren't they going its green I mean that is how much lag they were having for me to be able to have that thought and they still were sitting so when I saw that .6 I was happy but I have to say the speed is very disappointing.

Gadget I think he could have won if he would have got a good R/T but he was to slow so thats were he lost it if he works on his launch and gets down to were I am at I think he will take me. also I am told that the track is much stickier then the street so your times and speeds are a little muted.

Jay Chicka chicka yeah I was the only (but of course) sky or kappa all thought I would have liked to have see another its cool and as with the car lots and lots of looks and Q.

So Thur is coming up and I think I will try and get some time in on the track Hay maybe I can get the Thur dinner thing changed so everyone goes to the track instead since its the last of the month.
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Red So that short of an R/T is possible, wow the place were I went people there were really slow most were still sitting when the light was green and I thought why aren't they going its green I mean that is how much lag they were having for me to be able to have that thought and they still were sitting so when I saw that .6 I was happy but I have to say the speed is very disappointing. [/quote]
1. The lower you can get you can get your RT - the better your chance at a ‘heads up’ race.
2. Lower RT translates to ‘Stop light Grands Prix” skills on the street.
3. If you intimidate your opponent with a low RT you can draw them into “redlighting”. One third of all professional drag races are decided by a redlight.
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It finally happened we went to the track and although the Stang didn't race I went up against the GranTorino and crushed him Well not really but I did win (only because I was faster on the start) and thats all that matters. I didn't get to run the eclipse but he ended up beating the Torino to. again due to the launch. The Eclipes and I would have been a good race I was only tenths behind and ahead in the three points of measurement although I did have a higher speed I think he would have been right on me up until the end. the results were as follows.

Me
R/T.659
60 2.574
330 6.902
1/8 10.595
Mph 64.85

Him
R/T 1.262
60 2.526
330 7.090
1/8 10.804
Mph 66.57


The Mph was bad because I reved out in third due to having it in L and not I. So my next run was higher in the Mph my 1/8 was 10.379 and the Mph was 68.88

What RPM did you dump the clutch at to get a good launch?
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CF I have an Auto so no dumping here just brake to gas as fast as my little footsie could go.
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CF I have an Auto so no dumping here just brake to gas as fast as my little footsie could go.
If your not brake-reving, you are giving away a second. -J
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I thought that only applied to road racing - where you need to jump from gas to brake back to gas as you go through the corners.
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I thought that only applied to road racing - where you need to jump from gas to brake back to gas as you go through the corners.
Turbo lag. For Drag: You want to build pressure before you release the brake.
For AX: You want to keep boost up while slowing down, also, rotates the rear end easier. -J
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If your not brake-reving, you are giving away a second. -J
At least, that is a pretty awful 60' for both cars. I bet the sky could break 9's by actually staging at the light. Not too bad, interested to see a full 1/4 mile run now.
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At least, that is a pretty awful 60' for both cars.
There are nicer ways to say that... True... But nicer ways. Lets call this an 'opprotunity'. -J
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Turbo lag. For Drag: You want to build pressure before you release the brake.
For AX: You want to keep boost up while slowing down, also, rotates the rear end easier. -J
You've got your terms messed up - that is typically called left foot braking.

Heel toe - watch how his toe is on the brake and he heels the gas pedal - YouTube - Double Clutch Downshifts (he is also double clutching to get the transmission shafts up to speed between shifts)

You do it to match revs on a downshift so that a) you don't mess up the gear in the tranny and b) don't upset the balance of the car by shock loading the rear tires.

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You've got your terms messed up - that is typically called left foot braking.
If you look at the original post, the guy is driving an automatic. That is why I said you have to use two feet. I never mentioned heel/toe.
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If you look at the original post, the guy is driving an automatic. That is why I said you have to use two feet. I never mentioned heel/toe.
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No problem.

I was confused - It looked like you were replying to Lil GTO who said Heel/toe was for road racing and then it looked like you were describing two other places where it could be used.
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