Question about Friday Night at ATCO Raceway

rhian · 10-15-2007, 10:24 PM

So this Friday a friend and I are planning on going to ATCO raceway in New Jersey for the open Friday night. I was hoping to do the 1/4 mile although I understand there are regulations requiring a roll bar for vehicles under a certain time.

Somebody here wrote that they were able to race down the strip once but that was about it. Does anybody else here have any insight onto what I should know? Anybody else here been to ATCO with their SKY or even Solstice? Will I be able to go down more than once provided my time doesn't go over the minimum? I just don't want to waste a trip all the way out there.

Thanks !

rhian · 10-16-2007, 10:44 AM

bumpity bump bump

kwayne · 10-16-2007, 11:05 AM

go to: http://www.atcorace.com/
I'm planning on going sometime soon; when are you planning on being there?

kwayne · 10-16-2007, 11:09 AM

since friday is street grudge match
http://www.nhra.com/streetlegal/Whattoexpect.html

rhian · 10-16-2007, 11:26 AM

I plan on going this Friday. I am taking off so my friend and I are going to try and arrive first thing when they open at 4:30pm. He's taking his Mitsubishi Evo. I was just worried they were going to give me a hard time about the whole roll bar issue. But, I was confused because there are many others here and over on the other forum that have 1/4 mile times.

SolScuba · 10-16-2007, 11:35 AM

Usually it's 13's and under. So if you run a 13.0 you'd have to have a roll cage. Some tracks are 13.5

rhian · 10-16-2007, 02:10 PM

As long as I get to run at least once I will be happy

kwayne · 10-16-2007, 03:10 PM

I'd join you, BUT the wolverine is in shop and I don't know anything yet; I'll PM u on thur nite

SolScuba · 10-16-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rhian

As long as I get to run at least once I will be happy

I said the same, and I ended up runnin like 12 times.

rhian · 10-16-2007, 03:35 PM

Sounds good. Thanks guys

rhian · 10-18-2007, 04:22 PM

Looks like the weather is going to be crappy tomorrow (Friday) so my friend and I are going to postpone things until next Friday

Antonio · 10-18-2007, 05:23 PM

nah, they won't bother you until you start getting in the low 13's for a roll bar. They will however make you purchase a proper helmet if you break 13.999 though. 14.000 and higher you can use those rental helmets, anything quicker, and they'll force you to buy a better helmet if you want to run again. I've been looking for a helmet of my own, because I figure with my mods, I should be in the high 13's as it is. Depending on the day, i'll try to come along. Raceway Park would be a little easier for me, but i've been meaning to swing by atco just once to try it out. Raceway park gets pretty darn crowded on test n tune nights.

kwayne · 10-18-2007, 08:21 PM

Sorry guys as it now stands-still haven't been able to duplicate problem, I'm gettin' it back for the weekend w/datalogger- maybe next time

**Ahnuld** · 10-18-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

nah, they won't bother you until you start getting in the low 13's for a roll bar. They will however make you purchase a proper helmet if you break 13.999 though. 14.000 and higher you can use those rental helmets, anything quicker, and they'll force you to buy a better helmet if you want to run again. I've been looking for a helmet of my own, because I figure with my mods, I should be in the high 13's as it is. Depending on the day, i'll try to come along. Raceway Park would be a little easier for me, but i've been meaning to swing by atco just once to try it out. Raceway park gets pretty darn crowded on test n tune nights.

what is a stock Sky RL time?

Antonio · 10-19-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahnuld

what is a stock Sky RL time?

I hit a 14.078 stock

**Robotech** · 10-19-2007, 02:19 AM

Fast enough that I'd bring a helmet so you don't have to go hom eearly if you run really well.

I thought verts running faster than 13.99 had to have a bar? I think a helmet requirment is at 14.999 for verts isn't it?

For us hardtops I know it's 13.99 for a helmet and 11.499 for a bar. I'd call the track and see what their official stance is on that stuff.

Antonio · 10-19-2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robotech

Fast enough that I'd bring a helmet so you don't have to go hom eearly if you run really well.

I thought verts running faster than 13.99 had to have a bar? I think a helmet requirment is at 14.999 for verts isn't it?

For us hardtops I know it's 13.99 for a helmet and 11.499 for a bar. I'd call the track and see what their official stance is on that stuff.

yes, call track for all info, but nhra rules state 13.499 and quicker for verts for roll bar.

Ernest · 10-19-2007, 11:57 PM

A seat is mandatory in all cars, A 3" driver restraint system meeting SFI Spec 16.1 is mandatory in all cars running 11.49 & quicker and in convertables 13.49 or quicker and all dune buggy types.

Driver's in cars running 13.99 seconds or quicker and all dune buggy types running 14.00 and slower are required to wear a helmet meeting SNELL 95 or SFI 31.2, 321.2, 41.1, or 41.2 specs.

A driveshaft loop is required on all car's running 13.99 seconds or quicker, except vehicles running 13.00 and slower equipped with street tires.

A roll bar is required on all cars running 11.00 to 11.49 and in convertibles running 11.00 to 13.49 and all dune buggy type vehicles running 12.00 & slower. See NHRA Rule book for more info.

This is straight from NHRA rulebook, any sanctioned NHRA track will require this. However there are some tracks that will be somewhat liberal.

I am running tomorrow, my I plan to hit high 10's/low 11.00's. Got my Drag Radials on and should hook nicely

Tried them out this evening, even at 25 psi they hooked fairly well with T/C Off. will drop them down to 16 psi at the track and she should really get after it.

Gonna get a harness in Scarlett soon, having a Line Lock installed this winter, and gonna add a cam also. Scarlett will be ready for her spring debut at PINKS All Out in March

Any one interested in a good helmet I got one from Summit. Great place for gear, got my fire retardant pants, jacket and shoes at a great price. The shoes are great for driving, very comfortable.

I hope the info was of help

Ernest · 10-20-2007, 05:37 PM

I accomplished what I set out to do, 4th pass and I ran to quick

They said

run slower or get a roll bar

Like I am goimg to run slower. I hope everyone who went to the track this weekend had success

Ran 11.412 @ 125.85 on a .097 R/T and a 1.827 60'.

Drag Radials helped big time.

Tomorrow Mayhem and Scarlett go to the 1/8 mile track

marlboromike · 10-20-2007, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhian

As long as I get to run at least once I will be happy

I get to RUN everyday...lots of toilet paper around

**Robotech** · 10-26-2007, 05:17 PM

Nice run Ernest! Just got to work on dropping that 60' some. I can pull off a 1.7 with DRs and FWD...I know that beast can do better.

Now if I can just get my times that low.

10-15-2007, 10:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
rhian Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 206 My Photos: (0)	Question about Friday Night at ATCO Raceway So this Friday a friend and I are planning on going to ATCO raceway in New Jersey for the open Friday night. I was hoping to do the 1/4 mile although I understand there are regulations requiring a roll bar for vehicles under a certain time. Somebody here wrote that they were able to race down the strip once but that was about it. Does anybody else here have any insight onto what I should know? Anybody else here been to ATCO with their SKY or even Solstice? Will I be able to go down more than once provided my time doesn't go over the minimum? I just don't want to waste a trip all the way out there. Thanks ! __________________ -- '07 Black Sky Redline -- Last edited by rhian : 10-15-2007 at 10:26 PM.

10-16-2007, 10:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
rhian Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 206 My Photos: (0)	bumpity bump bump __________________ -- '07 Black Sky Redline --

10-16-2007, 11:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
kwayne First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: born & raised in Roseville,Mi. now living in Egg Harbor Twp.,NJ outside Atlantic City Posts: 906 My Photos: (0)	go to: http://www.atcorace.com/ I'm planning on going sometime soon; when are you planning on being there? __________________ Ken deposit 6/6/06;deliverd wrong 2/8/07;reordered 2/16/07 4/6/07 ALL mine & the banks Mean Green Wolverine R/L Forrest Green,Tan/TAN seat 3 pedals, spoiler,1 CD Monsoon

10-16-2007, 11:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
kwayne First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: born & raised in Roseville,Mi. now living in Egg Harbor Twp.,NJ outside Atlantic City Posts: 906 My Photos: (0)	found it since friday is street grudge match http://www.nhra.com/streetlegal/Whattoexpect.html __________________ Ken deposit 6/6/06;deliverd wrong 2/8/07;reordered 2/16/07 4/6/07 ALL mine & the banks Mean Green Wolverine R/L Forrest Green,Tan/TAN seat 3 pedals, spoiler,1 CD Monsoon

10-16-2007, 11:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
rhian Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 206 My Photos: (0)	I plan on going this Friday. I am taking off so my friend and I are going to try and arrive first thing when they open at 4:30pm. He's taking his Mitsubishi Evo. I was just worried they were going to give me a hard time about the whole roll bar issue. But, I was confused because there are many others here and over on the other forum that have 1/4 mile times. __________________ -- '07 Black Sky Redline --

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10-16-2007, 11:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
SolScuba Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 191 My Photos: (0)	Usually it's 13's and under. So if you run a 13.0 you'd have to have a roll cage. Some tracks are 13.5

10-16-2007, 02:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
rhian Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 206 My Photos: (0)	As long as I get to run at least once I will be happy __________________ -- '07 Black Sky Redline --

10-16-2007, 03:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
kwayne First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: born & raised in Roseville,Mi. now living in Egg Harbor Twp.,NJ outside Atlantic City Posts: 906 My Photos: (0)	I'd join you, BUT the wolverine is in shop and I don't know anything yet; I'll PM u on thur nite __________________ Ken deposit 6/6/06;deliverd wrong 2/8/07;reordered 2/16/07 4/6/07 ALL mine & the banks Mean Green Wolverine R/L Forrest Green,Tan/TAN seat 3 pedals, spoiler,1 CD Monsoon

10-16-2007, 03:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
rhian Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 206 My Photos: (0)	Sounds good. Thanks guys __________________ -- '07 Black Sky Redline --

10-18-2007, 04:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
rhian Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 206 My Photos: (0)	Looks like the weather is going to be crappy tomorrow (Friday) so my friend and I are going to postpone things until next Friday __________________ -- '07 Black Sky Redline --

10-18-2007, 05:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
Antonio Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 1,627 My Photos: (6)	nah, they won't bother you until you start getting in the low 13's for a roll bar. They will however make you purchase a proper helmet if you break 13.999 though. 14.000 and higher you can use those rental helmets, anything quicker, and they'll force you to buy a better helmet if you want to run again. I've been looking for a helmet of my own, because I figure with my mods, I should be in the high 13's as it is. Depending on the day, i'll try to come along. Raceway Park would be a little easier for me, but i've been meaning to swing by atco just once to try it out. Raceway park gets pretty darn crowded on test n tune nights. __________________ HAD - '07 Redline -292 whp & 327 wtq - SOLD :( HAVE - '02 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - STOCK....for now http://youtube.com/profile?user=talkaboutblue NASSOA Founding Member

10-18-2007, 08:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
kwayne First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: born & raised in Roseville,Mi. now living in Egg Harbor Twp.,NJ outside Atlantic City Posts: 906 My Photos: (0)	won't be there Sorry guys as it now stands-still haven't been able to duplicate problem, I'm gettin' it back for the weekend w/datalogger- maybe next time __________________ Ken deposit 6/6/06;deliverd wrong 2/8/07;reordered 2/16/07 4/6/07 ALL mine & the banks Mean Green Wolverine R/L Forrest Green,Tan/TAN seat 3 pedals, spoiler,1 CD Monsoon

10-19-2007, 02:19 AM	#16 (permalink)
Robotech Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2006 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 1,097 My Photos: (0)	Fast enough that I'd bring a helmet so you don't have to go hom eearly if you run really well. I thought verts running faster than 13.99 had to have a bar? I think a helmet requirment is at 14.999 for verts isn't it? For us hardtops I know it's 13.99 for a helmet and 11.499 for a bar. I'd call the track and see what their official stance is on that stuff. __________________ V.A.L. Midnight Blue MagnaFlow dual outlet, quad tip exhaust test car GMPP CAI 16.540 @ 82.096 MPH Sold Other car 97 Grand Prix GTP. 12.07 @ 113.4 MPH As seen on Pinks All Out Las Vegas!

10-19-2007, 11:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ernest First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Arlington, TEXAS Posts: 4,274 My Photos: (10)	Here Some Info A seat is mandatory in all cars, A 3" driver restraint system meeting SFI Spec 16.1 is mandatory in all cars running 11.49 & quicker and in convertables 13.49 or quicker and all dune buggy types. Driver's in cars running 13.99 seconds or quicker and all dune buggy types running 14.00 and slower are required to wear a helmet meeting SNELL 95 or SFI 31.2, 321.2, 41.1, or 41.2 specs. A driveshaft loop is required on all car's running 13.99 seconds or quicker, except vehicles running 13.00 and slower equipped with street tires. A roll bar is required on all cars running 11.00 to 11.49 and in convertibles running 11.00 to 13.49 and all dune buggy type vehicles running 12.00 & slower. See NHRA Rule book for more info. This is straight from NHRA rulebook, any sanctioned NHRA track will require this. However there are some tracks that will be somewhat liberal. I am running tomorrow, my I plan to hit high 10's/low 11.00's. Got my Drag Radials on and should hook nicely Tried them out this evening, even at 25 psi they hooked fairly well with T/C Off. will drop them down to 16 psi at the track and she should really get after it. Gonna get a harness in Scarlett soon, having a Line Lock installed this winter, and gonna add a cam also. Scarlett will be ready for her spring debut at PINKS All Out in March Any one interested in a good helmet I got one from Summit. Great place for gear, got my fire retardant pants, jacket and shoes at a great price. The shoes are great for driving, very comfortable. I hope the info was of help __________________ ERNEST '04 Torch Red Corvette Coupe '07 Corvette Z06 "Scarlett" Victory Red 555.6 rwhp / 485.5 rwt N/A - No Spray "Just a little warmed over LS7 from the guys @ Quality Motorsports" Myspace www.myspace.com/ernest06z06 Last edited by Ernest : 10-20-2007 at 01:07 AM.

10-20-2007, 05:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ernest First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Arlington, TEXAS Posts: 4,274 My Photos: (10)	Booted from the Track I accomplished what I set out to do, 4th pass and I ran to quick They said run slower or get a roll bar Like I am goimg to run slower. I hope everyone who went to the track this weekend had success Ran 11.412 @ 125.85 on a .097 R/T and a 1.827 60'. Drag Radials helped big time. Tomorrow Mayhem and Scarlett go to the 1/8 mile track __________________ ERNEST '04 Torch Red Corvette Coupe '07 Corvette Z06 "Scarlett" Victory Red 555.6 rwhp / 485.5 rwt N/A - No Spray "Just a little warmed over LS7 from the guys @ Quality Motorsports" Myspace www.myspace.com/ernest06z06

10-26-2007, 05:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
Robotech Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2006 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 1,097 My Photos: (0)	Nice run Ernest! Just got to work on dropping that 60' some. I can pull off a 1.7 with DRs and FWD...I know that beast can do better. Now if I can just get my times that low. __________________ V.A.L. Midnight Blue MagnaFlow dual outlet, quad tip exhaust test car GMPP CAI 16.540 @ 82.096 MPH Sold Other car 97 Grand Prix GTP. 12.07 @ 113.4 MPH As seen on Pinks All Out Las Vegas!