2.4GTS: Building Brutus...

[RPIpower]

Brutus' 2.4GTS build started today. I will be posting pictures, etc. along the way so some of you can see what it is we do...

Brutus takes off his boxers.


Retainers and valve springs.


Valves.


Pistons.


Mr. Happy...

[hdwizard]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

Brutus' 2.4GTS build started today. I will be posting pictures, etc. along the way so some of you can see what it is we do...

I probably missed it somewhere in here, but can you tell us where it is you're intending to go with all this top end work?

Is 350+whp a good guess, or are you aiming much higher?

Inquiring minds and all that ...

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by hdwizard

I probably missed it somewhere in here, but can you tell us where it is you're intending to go with all this top end work?

Is 350+whp a good guess, or are you aiming much higher?

Inquiring minds and all that ...

http://sky24gt.com/specs.htm

[hdwizard]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

http://sky24gt.com/specs.htm

Thanks. Am I correct in assuming that you're moving from GT to GTS? And the HP numbers are at the wheels, not the crank, yes?

All this with no bottom end work (other than the lighter flywheel)?

Pretty impressive ...

I gather from the trunk space numbers that this also has the trunk mod I read about somewhere around here?

Any prices anywhere yet?

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by hdwizard

Thanks. Am I correct in assuming that you're moving from GT to GTS? And the HP numbers are at the wheels, not the crank, yes?

All this with no bottom end work (other than the lighter flywheel)?

Pretty impressive ...

I gather from the trunk space numbers that this also has the trunk mod I read about somewhere around here?

Any prices anywhere yet?

The GTS package will have a beefed up motor. We are building the GTS on brutus now. Forged pistons, rods, rings, valves, retainers, valve springs, lowered compression, etc. Yes, my car has the trunk mod as it was firt done on my car before we offered it to the general public. The power is rated at the crank but they may very well be underated. http://sky24gt.com/pricing.htm

[hdwizard]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

The GTS package will have a beefed up motor. We are building the GTS on brutus now. Forged pistons, rods, rings, valves, retainers, valve springs, lowered compression, etc. Yes, my car has the trunk mod as it was firt done on my car before we offered it to the general public. The power is rated at the crank but they may very well be underated. http://sky24gt.com/pricing.htm

I tend to think in motorcycle terms, so anything above the crank bearings is "top-end" to me ... It helps when you can just yank the jugs off when you blow something up ... don't ask me how I know ...

Now for the king of stupid questions ... when are you all going to start the heavy work on the 2.0 Turbo? Or is that still well into the future yet?

Thus far it seems that most of the serious mods are all for the 2.4. About the only things I'd seriously consider for the 2.0 at this point are the exhaust and the intercooler, and possibly the modified intake you all have. It doesn't really look like anything else has seen any serious testing, and most of the other stuff out there for the RL comes across as bling, at least to me.

While I have no problem dressing up my vehicles, and have done so on several of them, I was raised on the saying that "chrome don't get you home", and I'd rather drop my cash on something that will produce a kick in the tail, if you follow me.

Before anyone gets their shorts in a wad, I'm not saying anyone shouldn't spend their money on whatever they want. By all means do so, and more power to ya'. All I'm saying is that, for my part, if I'm going to drop a significant chunk of change on my new toy, I want a noticeable ROI. The car already attracts attention. Now I just want it to bend some of the laws of physics. Not much to ask, eh? ...

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by hdwizard

I tend to think in motorcycle terms, so anything above the crank bearings is "top-end" to me ... It helps when you can just yank the jugs off when you blow something up ... don't ask me how I know ...

Now for the king of stupid questions ... when are you all going to start the heavy work on the 2.0 Turbo? Or is that still well into the future yet?

Thus far it seems that most of the serious mods are all for the 2.4. About the only things I'd seriously consider for the 2.0 at this point are the exhaust and the intercooler, and possibly the modified intake you all have. It doesn't really look like anything else has seen any serious testing, and most of the other stuff out there for the RL comes across as bling, at least to me.

While I have no problem dressing up my vehicles, and have done so on several of them, I was raised on the saying that "chrome don't get you home", and I'd rather drop my cash on something that will produce a kick in the tail, if you follow me.

Before anyone gets their shorts in a wad, I'm not saying anyone shouldn't spend their money on whatever they want. By all means do so, and more power to ya'. All I'm saying is that, for my part, if I'm going to drop a significant chunk of change on my new toy, I want a noticeable ROI. The car already attracts attention. Now I just want it to bend some of the laws of physics. Not much to ask, eh? ...

Think motorcycle terms! Thats ok. Guys that have been here have seen the drag bike.

We have a lot of goodies in store for the 2.0. We are just waiting for the software developers that we deal with to crack the redline ecu. Once that is done, you can be sure that Brutus will have many friends to play with. In the meantime, the exhaust, intercooler, dp and intake will all be things that you can carry over to the 2.0GT and GTS package. Just ask voodoo as he put the smack down on a non stock EVO last night.

[hdwizard]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

Think motorcycle terms! Thats ok. Guys that have been here have seen the drag bike.

We have a lot of goodies in store for the 2.0. We are just waiting for the software developers that we deal with to crack the redline ecu. Once that is done, you can be sure that Brutus will have many friends to play with. In the meantime, the exhaust, intercooler, dp and intake will all be things that you can carry over to the 2.0GT and GTS package. Just ask voodoo as he put the smack down on a non stock EVO last night.

All within the legal speed limits, of course ...

I'll have to go slow on the mods anyway. The wife is not exactly a willing participant in this game. She has not fogotten how the Harley was going to "stay stock" way back in the day. That didn't last long, and I'm not even bothering to pretend with the RL. She sees $$$, and she doesn't like it. I was single when I got the H-D, but now I have a wife and kids, and compromise is a way of life. Maybe if I let her drive it enough ...

I'm trying to convince her that the exhaust and intercooler mods are just plain common sense, but there is just no BS'ing an Irish woman ...

At this point, I'm trying to get some idea of what and how much, and that will give me some idea of how far and how fast I can proceed. You guys will probably get there before I do ...

P.S. Nice bike. Reminds me of my old Kawi (sans wheelie bars, which would have come in handy on that sucker).

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by hdwizard

All within the legal speed limits, of course ...

I'll have to go slow on the mods anyway. The wife is not exactly a willing participant in this game. She has not fogotten how the Harley was going to "stay stock" way back in the day. That didn't last long, and I'm not even bothering to pretend with the RL. She sees $$$, and she doesn't like it. I was single when I got the H-D, but now I have a wife and kids, and compromise is a way of life. Maybe if I let her drive it enough ...

I'm trying to convince her that the exhaust and intercooler mods are just plain common sense, but there is just no BS'ing an Irish woman ...

At this point, I'm trying to get some idea of what and how much, and that will give me some idea of how far and how fast I can proceed. You guys will probably get there before I do ...

P.S. Nice bike. Reminds me of my old Kawi (sans wheelie bars, which would have come in handy on that sucker).

You would be surprised how many customers call for pricing, then have their wives call to confirm. I had to actually print out an estimate a few times so the men could take it home and show their in-home boss. LOL. Who said its a mans world?

[hdwizard]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

You would be surprised how many customers call for pricing, then have their wives call to confirm. I had to actually print out an estimate a few times so the men could take it home and show their in-home boss. LOL. Who said its a mans world?

An unmarried man ...

[VooDooNOFX]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

Just ask voodoo as he put the smack down on a non stock EVO last night.

you know I don't street race anymore.... :cough: :cough: .... But hypothetically IF I did...I definitely kicked his ass...err, WOULD have kicked his ass....



Steve

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by VooDooNOFX

you know I don't street race anymore.... :cough: :cough: .... But hypothetically IF I did...I definitely kicked his ass...err, WOULD have kicked his ass....



Steve

He was just another example of "lots of mods that did NOTHING." Im sure the "swish" sound from his blow off valve, the whining of the turbo from his hot air intake, and loud exhaust made him think he was fast.

[Hraesvelg]

What EMS are you using? And did you go with larger injectors? What PSI?

EDIT: and as far as the redline goes, have y'all firgured out what to do with the direct injection as a limit to the amount of fuel they can put out?

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg

What EMS are you using? And did you go with larger injectors? What PSI?

EDIT: and as far as the redline goes, have y'all firgured out what to do with the direct injection as a limit to the amount of fuel they can put out?

At this time we are reprogramming the stock ecu. Yes we are going with larger injectors and will run about 20-22psi with our GT28RS. That should give us about 410whp. As far as the redline, we have been working with a few software companies to come up with a safe and reliable solution for the redline/gxp tuning issues.

[Skykid]

Thank you! I am so tired of not having the tuning options like the 2.4's. I'm jealous!!!!

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by Skykid

Thank you! I am so tired of not having the tuning options like the 2.4's. I'm jealous!!!!

We were able to access certain parameters on the 2.0 but didn't do anything because there was inaudible knock/ping even on a stock motor. We are making over 300hp at the crank on Steve's car with bolt ons and no tuning so to make 300hp on a stock car with just tuning makes me curious. Those of you who have HP Scan tool should record and datalog your knock readings.

[Hraesvelg]

Originally Posted by RPIpower

As far as the redline, we have been working with a few software companies to come up with a safe and reliable solution for the redline/gxp tuning issues.

What about hardware issues? ie replacement for the stock injectors? I'm new on here but it seems having a direct injection engine will pose a problem from a max power standpoint. Seems like the 2.4 will be easier and cheaper to get more power out of.

[RPIpower]

Originally Posted by Hraesvelg

What about hardware issues? ie replacement for the stock injectors? I'm new on here but it seems having a direct injection engine will pose a problem from a max power standpoint. Seems like the 2.4 will be easier and cheaper to get more power out of.

You are correct and that is why I chose the 2.4 for my personal car. The redline is still very capable and we are working hard and patiently waiting for a solution.