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Old 02-01-2013, 03:40 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Ya well you see what had happen was, ya I have no excuse just impatient and didnt find this forums till after. But why would I work on some days and not others ? Like cold days it limps out quick. Hot runs good mostly.
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But why would I work on some days and not others ? Like cold days it limps out quick. Hot runs good mostly.
Cold Days = Denser Air

Hot Days = Less Dense Air

My guess is the MAF is more likely to wig out with the Denser Air, because it is encountering greater turbulence. The MAF on our cars is very sensitive. And if you are going with the K&N oiled filter version, be very careful with the amount of oil you put on the filter. We have had many instances of oil mist getting on the MAF and messing it up. Personally, I would always stick with a dry filter on these cars.
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@gs...I agree with you there I just want the intake pipe I dont much care for there filters. I was trying to put a pic on here of it but not having any luck.
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Well It was a warm day today so I was going to go for a drive and it didnt make it a half mile and limped out .something else when I first put it on there it ran fine for a few weeks and them my mpg droped from 34 to 25-26mpg then yhe limping out started happening hear and there at first then everyday..
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Cold Days = Denser Air

Hot Days = Less Dense Air

My guess is the MAF is more likely to wig out with the Denser Air, because it is encountering greater turbulence. The MAF on our cars is very sensitive. And if you are going with the K&N oiled filter version, be very careful with the amount of oil you put on the filter. We have had many instances of oil mist getting on the MAF and messing it up. Personally, I would always stick with a dry filter on these cars.
I had the exact K&N filter issue. Replaced the MAF and no issues until this weekend. Started the car in 12 degree weather and idled like crap. Idling now ok and running ok but check engine light still on. Is this possibly due to extreme cold weather?
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I had the exact K&N filter issue. Replaced the MAF and no issues until this weekend. Started the car in 12 degree weather and idled like crap. Idling now ok and running ok but check engine light still on. Is this possibly due to extreme cold weather?
My post was in reference to the aftermarket intake causing turbulence with the MAF. (and cold/denser air may tend to cause more turbulence in an aftermarket intake that already has turbulence-MAF issues) And I added a note about being cautious not to over oil the K&N filter.

If you only have a K&N drop in filter, put into the OEM intake: Then I don't see air temperature being a variable. You probably still have to much oil on the filter and it is just coincidence that it FUBARed your MAF again. You should be able to just pull the MAF and clean it out real good with MAF cleaner. Be sure it is dry before you reinstall, and keep track of which way it came out, so you put it back in the same direction.

Or: Perhaps you have a cold temp sensor acting up in the engine (unlikely-but if bad may cause bad idle when air temperature is cold) Get the codes read, and that will tell you more. Or just clean up the MAF and see if the engine light goes away and you don't have a repeat of the problem. (and dry out that air filter some more)
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Ill be ordering the k&n typhoon Wednesday hope that fixes the prob.
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Am I the only one that chuckled at the thread title?
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I had similar problem. Was told it was a failing temputure sensor in GMPP kit. Replace and made no difference until I went in and cleaned all the contacts on sensor and connectors. Has not been a problem since. If it is, I will have to look into some soldering I guess. Keep the can of contact cleaner with me now...
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