Eibach Swaybars

[compdoc777]

Anyone purchase the Eibach Swaybars?


I was thinking of getting a set although, they look rather expensive.

To me the Sky needs some serious handling upgrades.


I was wondering if anyone had tested them. I have Hotchkiss on my RSX and it handles like it is on rails in fact much better than some of my more superior cars like the Vette, and RX7 TT.

[Brandon111]

Check out this thread for our review and installation of these swaybars.
Eibach Anti-Roll Bar Installation and Review

I think you will love them. You can get them from us for only $360 for the full kit.

[Antonio]

yeah, they're not that expensive really. I've been shopping and almost already ordered the GMPP sways. they run 200 each, so the eibachs are $40 cheaper. I was halted by cash drying up and I think that's a good thing, now i have some thinking to do before i decide where to hit that buy button

[Dave@ddmworks]

If you have a Redline you may want to measure your stock sway bars as they are larger than the stock 2.4L's.

I will look up the sizes when I get back to the shop in the morning, unless Brandon can get to it before me, but I believe the Eibach's and the stock Redline's are within a millimeter of each other. Although the Eibach does allow some adjustability with its 2 hole positions.

[Dave@ddmworks]

The Eibach sway bars are - 32mm Front / 25mm rear
Stock 2.4L sway bars are - 27.5mm Front / 24mm rear
GXP / Redline Front Sway bar - 33mm / I believe that the rear was 24mm

Hope that helps!

[Antonio]

hmmm, i guess 1 mm wouldn't make or break the fit.....I mean the mounting locations are identical on both cars correct?

[compdoc777]

Originally Posted by Dave@ddmworks

The Eibach sway bars are - 32mm Front / 25mm rear
Stock 2.4L sway bars are - 27.5mm Front / 24mm rear
GXP / Redline Front Sway bar - 33mm / I believe that the rear was 24mm

Hope that helps!

Yet, will this increase or decrease performance?

[Brandon111]

Here is some information I gathered from the tech dept. at Eibach.

The sway bar kit was developed on a Solstice. It is made of premium aircraft-quality, cold roll steel and designed to be stronger then the stock sway bars on the softer setting and much more aggressive then stock on the stiff setting. Remember the front and rear bar both have a firm and soft setting.

The front Eibach sway bar is 32mm and 78% stronger then the stock front sway bar.
The rear Eibach sway bar is 25mm and 69% stronger then the stock rear sway bar.

They said that the bar was most likely not tested on the GXP/Redline so they couldnt confirm fitment. Hopefully we can get one in here to test this kit on. The stock GXP sway bar is 33.4mm and 25.3mm thick making it thicker then the Eibach, but not necessarily stronger. I am pretty sure the bar will be stronger and will fit on the GXP/Redline but we have not confirmed either yet. The bar comes with its own bushings so the thickness of the bar does not determine if it will fit or not. Its just a function of if the GXP/Redline is of a different design then the base model bar. Also remember that stronger is not always better, Eibach designed the kit with this in mind. Too strong of sway bars can cause new issues like broken toe links.

[Dave@ddmworks]

Originally Posted by Brandon111

Here is some information I gathered from the tech dept. at Eibach.

The sway bar kit was developed on a Solstice. It is made of premium aircraft-quality, cold roll steel and designed to be stronger then the stock sway bars on the softer setting and much more aggressive then stock on the stiff setting. Remember the front and rear bar both have a firm and soft setting.

The front Eibach sway bar is 32mm and 78% stronger then the stock front sway bar.
The rear Eibach sway bar is 25mm and 69% stronger then the stock rear sway bar.

They said that the bar was most likely not tested on the GXP/Redline so they couldnt confirm fitment. Hopefully we can get one in here to test this kit on. The stock GXP sway bar is 33.4mm and 25.3mm thick making it thicker then the Eibach, but not necessarily stronger. I am pretty sure the bar will be stronger and will fit on the GXP/Redline but we have not confirmed either yet. The bar comes with its own bushings so the thickness of the bar does not determine if it will fit or not. Its just a function of if the GXP/Redline is of a different design then the base model bar. Also remember that stronger is not always better, Eibach designed the kit with this in mind. Too strong of sway bars can cause new issues like broken toe links.

Brandon,

When you say that they are X% stronger than the stock ones, is that in the firm position or the soft position? I am guessing that it is the firm position, and if so do you know the specs for the soft position?

Just doing some calculations on Front and Rear roll stiffness.

Thanks!
Dave

[compdoc777]

I called Eibach and they said that R&D says the Sways will not fit the Redline.

Nothing is available for the Redline but the Springs which they said really improves the handling, but you may want to go with an after market dampner because they will toast the stockers quickly.

Maybe some adjustable Koni's?

I don't know how our cars can be 1.7 inches lower in the front.

[Antonio]

ah. thanks compdoc. I was going to call them as well. I have eibach pro kit springs sitting in the corner, and the Konis are getting ordered on friday with some sways. Now.......just to find the time to install all this crap

Looks like I'll be sticking to my original choice of the GXP ZOK sways. At least they were tested and designed for the GXP/Redline. I'll order them this friday. For those with the 2.4, these eibach sways are still a great option.

[RedHeaded RedLine]

Originally Posted by compdoc777

I called Eibach and they said that R&D says the Sways will not fit the Redline.
Nothing is available for the Redline but the Springs which they said really improves the handling, but you may want to go with an after market dampner because they will toast the stockers quickly.
Maybe some adjustable Koni's?
I don't know how our cars can be 1.7 inches lower in the front.

Let's also remember while the Eibachs may be thinner, the stocks are hollow. -J

[Brandon111]

Originally Posted by compdoc777

I called Eibach and they said that R&D says the Sways will not fit the Redline.

Nothing is available for the Redline but the Springs which they said really improves the handling, but you may want to go with an after market dampner because they will toast the stockers quickly.

Maybe some adjustable Koni's?

I don't know how our cars can be 1.7 inches lower in the front.

Just so you know, our lowering springs are made by Eibach to our specs and lower the car 1" front 1.3" rear. We still have stock shocks and they are holding out pretty well. I think we will move to the Koni's in a lil while here.

[harry777]

maybe i am not used to the 21st century in autos here.....but for many years i drove a highly modified tr6.....motor/suspension/lowered etc..... but i am now driving my 2008 rl.....and it seems real sloopy in the corners.....unless you give it a boot it ...'which is real nice"...i like that feel when it responds.with throttle coming out of the corner....but if you are trying to glide into a corner just below the risk level it tends to feel real loose and unpredictable...bouncy....not flat and waiting for the driver to initiate the next step.....it feels like i cannot trust how fast i can come into a corner "without braking"....and have to rely on the pedel to correct the feel...would the products available in lowering and stiffening the suspension resolve this issue ???????......

not complaining.......rat raced a new m6 the other day......couldn't loose me....hilly and total corners.....he was obviously a poor driver......

[BlueSkyRL]

Originally Posted by harry777

maybe i am not used to the 21st century in autos here.....but for many years i drove a highly modified tr6.....motor/suspension/lowered etc..... but i am now driving my 2008 rl.....and it seems real sloopy in the corners.....unless you give it a boot it ...'which is real nice"...i like that feel when it responds.with throttle coming out of the corner....but if you are trying to glide into a corner just below the risk level it tends to feel real loose and unpredictable...bouncy....not flat and waiting for the driver to initiate the next step.....it feels like i cannot trust how fast i can come into a corner "without braking"....and have to rely on the pedel to correct the feel...would the products available in lowering and stiffening the suspension resolve this issue ???????......

not complaining.......rat raced a new m6 the other day......couldn't loose me....hilly and total corners.....he was obviously a poor driver......

Wow, I thought i was the only one that didn't like the feel of my RL in the corners. It does feel very unpredictable...squirrely or like the front end is kind of floating around. I was think a "Damper shock" on the steering might help. I love the car, but my truck feels better in the corners

[Bogie]

Originally Posted by compdoc777

To me the Sky needs some serious handling upgrades.

Is it just me? I have a stock RL and thrash it about pretty good and it feels rock solid. Granted....I'm sure there is more thrash margin in Autocross or other track events, but I can't for the life of me see the benefit of either a tighter suspension or sway bars outside performance events.

I haven't driven an NA, so I don't know how that suspension stacks up. But the RL is great in stock for me.

[BlueSkyRL]

Originally Posted by Bogie

Is it just me? I have a stock RL and thrash it about pretty good and it feels rock solid. Granted....I'm sure there is more thrash margin in Autocross or other track events, but I can't for the life of me see the benefit of either a tighter suspension or sway bars outside performance events.

I haven't driven an NA, so I don't know how that suspension stacks up. But the RL is great in stock for me.

Bogie, what I'm referring to is taking a long curve onto a highway at 60 miles (posted speed is say 35) per hr and noticing the steering wheel needs to be controlled with both hands. It feels like the front end is too easily affected by the cracks and uneven roads. That's what I call a floating front end feel. My ZR2 truck takes these curves with ease.

[kwayne]

Bluesky mu first thought--GET BETTER TIRES, these Goodyears are terrible!!! just my

[compdoc777]

Originally Posted by Bogie

Is it just me? I have a stock RL and thrash it about pretty good and it feels rock solid. Granted....I'm sure there is more thrash margin in Autocross or other track events, but I can't for the life of me see the benefit of either a tighter suspension or sway bars outside performance events.

I haven't driven an NA, so I don't know how that suspension stacks up. But the RL is great in stock for me.

Yes this car is way to boucy and loose in the suspension. I am used to driving car with a lot more suspension granted, but like the guy said before I feel more confident with my 1995 Explorer in corners than I do with the RL.

I have taken it through a few fast bends in the RL and it looses composure easily. My RSX with the modified suspension of course handles like it is on rails, but now it is back to stock with the sways (Hotchkiss), coil-overs (JIC) and ITR LSD all gone it still will take turns more confident and easily than the RL. Maybe I have some serious problems with the car, but the 2008's I test drove handled the same. So is it just a slacky suspension? It could be that I am used to an F1 type stiffness of suspension.