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Well said WS:

And great idea with the sticky foam. I didn't think of that one.
How long do you think sticky would stay adhered to that hot rubber hose? One drive?

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There IS no recall... and probably won't be one for this.
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How long do you think sticky would stay adhered to that hot rubber hose? One drive?
That is a good question.
But considering how difficult some of that crap is to remove, it might just work.

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How long do you think sticky would stay adhered to that hot rubber hose? One drive?
Irrelevant. It only has to locate the weatherstripping until it is trapped between the hose and rib (that's the reason for the cut in the rubber). Once it's trapped between them, it simply doesn't matter whether the adhesive gives up or not as the padding doesn't rely on adhesive to maintain it in place; it is mechanically trapped between the two surfaces with a slot locating it in one position for as long as that hose is in situ.

I just like to use the adhesive backed material because it is easy to source and it helps with assembly. If this weren't a situation where the rubber were physically trapped in place, I'd possibly add a belt and suspenders zip tie to the mix.

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WS,
This is the fix .
Also we are going to shave the fin.
And stop the movement like TS.
Goodnight hose.
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If any timorous souls are worried about the ability of the relatively soft weatherstripping rubber to withstand the rubbing, or worry about it falling out of place, another ready made product I've used extensively in the race cars (and street car fabrication) is Armaflex, a closed cell foam product extensively used in the plumbing/heating industry and readily available at home centres.

Personally I think it is overkill, but if you want it and if you don't mind it showing a bit, just take a short length (it comes as split tubing) and put it over the hose, then letting the hose down on the shroud again. It won't go anywhere.

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I have received two pm from GM C/S asking
for my VIN #.
My dealership info.

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DDM Latin Venom Brace does not seem as a fix for the issue.

LatinVenom posted on the the Solstice forum that the brace would solve the problem but this does not appear to be the case, at least on the 08 or 09 models that I can see. I just installed the brace last night and it sits in between the fan and the engine too low for it to even come into play with the hose or fan shroud.

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no touching

Mine doesn't touch. The hose has no signs of wear.
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Bob,
I looks like it does. Place your hand underneath
And check again. you will only find by feel.
I miss the cut on my check.
no big deal till the hose blows out .

Matt from GM has PM for the 2nd time.
Working on options .

Note, If the hose is not cut please do not post
TS found the ans. tie it up. If you don't in time
it will cut on the 2.0L. Not the 2.4L

don't let looks fool you .

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Mine isn't even over the shroud as shown in the picture posted by Bob. It's between the shroud and the engine.

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Alright, here you go. This is from my local GM Parts:

Attached is a picture of the official GM Part for the upper rad hose on a 09 Solstice Coupe. You will notice it comes complete with the sleeve. Of course, this is NOT the part number they show for my 08 Sky. And I would bet you anything the 08 Sky part does not come with the sleeve. And of course, the Sky part costs more.

I even drug one of the service writers outside and had him look at this hose compared to the OEM installed on my car. Just so I had one more set of eyes to confirm. We both concur that this hose looks exactly like the one on the car, except it also has the sleeve. And both the OEM and this one have stamped "Made in Brazil" on the hose.

I have purchased two of the 09 Solstice Coupe hoses. I plan on having that hose replaced on both of our Skys when we get around to doing our first Coolant flushes at some time in the future. For now, both cars have the OEM hose adjusted so it is sitting well above the shroud. I will monitor and make sure there is no additional damage in the future.

Here are the part numbers and prices (before sales tax) that I paid. Please, no one go ballistic if these prices are lower than what you are being quoted. Please keep in mind that I live in a fairly small area, and I am sure the overhead costs for my local dealership are lower than most. And they also give me a 10% discount because I buy a lot of stuff from them, including 3 cars in the last 5 years.

What I paid at my local GM Parts.

2008 Saturn Sky Redline: GM Part #19129905 $58 and change (forgot to write down exact amount)

2009 Solstice Coupe GXP: GM Part #19130593 $23.89



GM Parts Direct Prices, as of today:

2008 Saturn Sky Redline: GM Part #19129905 $44.93 + $12.95 (Shipping,Processing,Handling)
Total Cost shipped to you: $57.88

2009 Solstice Coupe GXP: GM Part #19130593 $18.52 + $12.95 (Shipping,Processing,Handling)
Total Cost shipped to you: $31.47

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GS,
Great write up w/pic. My dealership same price.
military discount .
I took my cut hose into my dealership .
So my service avisor could see the cut.
He is now waiting for Matt to call him .

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GM Matt C/S called me last nite.
He is calling my dealer today.

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Thanks GS – Prices confirmed with my local Chevy Parts Dealer – He could not believe the difference in price. Says no one had it in stock, would have to come out of Lansing (was one Fla dealer that had a Sky hose?). Ordered a Solstice hose from GMPARTSDIRECT.

Who knows… perhaps “Like our tops” the Sky has more insulation????? Yeah Right!
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The price difference in the GM system between Saturn and Pontiac really is annoying. This is about the 4th-5th example that I recall this coming up. And in this case, the Pontiac part is better. My parts guy just shook his head.

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GS,
unbelievable .
Just rec. a PM from GM Matt. hopefully he will have a answer by Monday .
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