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Passenger Side Air Bag Sensor Replacement

This short video should clear up some questions about replacing the passenger side air bar sensor.
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So Hoosier, I take it from your video ..... if my occupied passenger seat light does NOT illuminate, then the light sensor may be faulty or the air bag has a problem? Correct?

The mechanic shop, with test gear to test the air bag, informs me there is nothing wrong with the air bag's functionality. They quoted a repair cost of the status light, but thus far I have just trusted their word that the air bag will function. A light going on and off seems less than significant.

Your video does tell me what is actually supposed to be happening on the dash. Thanks for your effort.
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So Hoosier, I take it from your video ..... if my occupied passenger seat light does NOT illuminate, then the light sensor may be faulty or the air bag has a problem? Correct?

The mechanic shop, with test gear to test the air bag, informs me there is nothing wrong with the air bag's functionality. They quoted a repair cost of the status light, but thus far I have just trusted their word that the air bag will function. A light going on and off seems less than significant.

Your video does tell me what is actually supposed to be happening on the dash. Thanks for your effort.


I don't think that the passenger side air bag is a problem. Most of what people here have experienced is either the light is malfunctioning or the seat sensor is faulty. I don't think that the passenger bag will deploy if the seat is not showing a passenger present. I am not sure how you would test the light to see if it is faulty.
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My video here was mostly to show that you don't have to visit a dealer to have the sensor reprogrammed. There was some discussion here on the forum about that. And also to show that most likely most models and years either Sky or Solstice would be a viable replacement. If you are experiencing a code or "light" in the DIC then you most likely have a problem with the sensor.
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Try turning on the car without the module connected. Get an airbag fault. Then see if you don't need the dealer to calibrate.

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Try turning on the car without the module connected. Get an airbag fault. Then see if you don't need the dealer to calibrate.

I will try that today and report back.
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I unhooked the passenger side seat sensor and started vehicle. The "service air bag" warning light appeared in the DIC. I then shut off the vehicle and plugged the sensor back in restarted vehicle and no service air bag was showing. Restarted vehicle a couple of times more just to confirm, still no light.
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I did this! Bought the pad/sensor on ebay for 300.00 Installed myself in about 40 minutes. Had to go out and buy some new "christmas trees" that hold the seat cover to the frame. Took it to the local Chevy dealer (after greasing the skids with an email to the service manager). They charged me 110.00 to reflash/recalibrate.

Picked up the car with my wife and the "Passenger Airbag Off" message initially comes on, then changes to "On" after a few, long, seconds. Cool!

Now wife gives the green light for performance enhancements! Cooler!

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Glad you got it fixed. Hang on to the receipts for everything just in case.


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LOL Norbert...

From the last line of that link you posted:
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We present this information to inform, and persuade, hopefully providing momentum to ensure loss of life does not occur due to a faulty airbag sensor. The evidence is clear, as it has been documented carefully over 67 pages by Troy Lyman, that GM holds a responsibility to its customers over this safety issue.
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So Troy, i read your 67 pages twice, but i couldn't find any proof that the a failed seat sensor mat is leading to the non-deployment of the airbag in the event of a collision. 🤔 (even not a single sentence!)

I state, that the both airbags still working with a broken passengers sensor mat.

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If the sensor mat doesn't detect a passenger, the passenger side airbag does not get turned on and therefore does not deploy in the event of a head-on collision that would normally cause passenger side airbag deployment.

The issue of whether the airbags deploy properly at all in any accident is a whole other debate that is still being hashed and unfortunately is not as easy (relatively speaking) to prove/disprove.

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Very easy to replace. I just bought a pair of seats off eBay ($400, vs $350 for a sensor) and swapped it over. No reflash or recalibration necessary. Easiest way to do it is to unbolt and take the seat out.


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So Troy, i read your 67 pages twice, but i couldn't find any proof that the a failed seat sensor mat is leading to the non-deployment of the airbag in the event of a collision. �� (even not a single sentence!)

I state, that the both airbags still working with a broken passengers sensor mat.
If you read the report and look through the supporting documents, you'll see that out of all the recalls mentioned, BMW, Mini, Kia, Suzuki, and GM, and the reports from Kappa owners...there has only been ONE injury due to a non-deployed passenger air bag because the sensor mat was broken. (It was in the BMW documentation.)

The reason I state in that document that a defective mat may result in non-deployment of the passenger airbag is because the manufacturers' in their official responses to the NHTSA state that. GM, BMW, Mini, and I believe Suzuki ALL claim that if the sensor mat is broken, the passenger airbag will not deploy.

With that kind of statement coming from the manufacturer, I'm not sure you NEED proof that it won't deploy if the mat is damaged. That the manufacturer believes this to be so is reason enough to properly address the sensor mat problem.

That is the purpose of that document...to get the NHTSA to open an investigation into the issue and I believe what has been stated by the manufacturers and NHTSA's data is sufficient to prove an investigation needs to be done.


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