2.0 SIDI Turbo Tuning Now Available! - Page 2

1Man1Sky · 08-19-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GM Roadster Club

Update: We now have a supply of ECM's on order, cost for a pre-flashed ECM will be $700.... This is a nice option for those who wish to swap between a tuned ECM and a stock one.

Martin

Does pre-flashed mean before it is flashed with your tune? In other words, the ECM costs $700 with no tune?

I'm a bit slow today and need it spelled out...

saab9-3 · 08-19-2008, 10:35 PM

ill purchase as soon as i see the dyno

rufusmacblorf · 08-19-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Man1Sky

Does pre-flashed mean before it is flashed with your tune? In other words, the ECM costs $700 with no tune?

I'm a bit slow today and need it spelled out...

No, he means the whole thing is $700. (Martin sent me an email spelling it out for me, since I'm also a little slow.

) Here's what's included for the $700:

1) The new ECU (blank hardware)

2) A baseline flash (Think of this as the operating system or software starting point. Any tune needs this to start with. It's my understanding that nobody but GM can do this right now.)

3) An overlay flash (the tune) which adjusts selected baseline parameters.

Martin, please correct me if I'm wrong.

bun1t · 08-20-2008, 12:18 AM

How much is it for just the tune to load through a HPtuner?

Do you sell HPtuners? If not, where is the cheapest place to get one?

Would it cost anymore to have the rev limit raised to 7k?

If we buy more mods later, how can we go about getting an updated tune?

You can send me a PM if you want, but I'd like to purchase the tune asap.

WishfulThinking · 08-20-2008, 12:18 AM

But an ECM swap means a trip to the dealer for a crank relearn (or something like that), right?

fr0stb1t3 · 08-20-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WishfulThinking

But an ECM swap means a trip to the dealer for a crank relearn (or something like that), right?

Yes it does.

**G8TR** · 08-20-2008, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by WishfulThinking

But an ECM swap means a trip to the dealer for a crank relearn (or something like that), right?

Can someone explain this?

fr0stb1t3 · 08-20-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by G8TR

Can someone explain this?

Anyone time you put in a new ECM it has to either be done at the dealer, somewhere with a Tech 2 tool, or by someone with a Dashhawk. The ECM has to "learn" the position of the crank.

**G8TR** · 08-20-2008, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fr0stb1t3

Anyone time you put in a new ECM it has to either be done at the dealer, somewhere with a Tech 2 tool, or by someone with a Dashhawk. The ECM has to "learn" the position of the crank.

So once this is done you can swap back and forth if needed?

**Stupidbikerboy** · 08-20-2008, 08:41 AM

How much for the HPTuners tune, and does it lock you out?

SKY Spy · 08-20-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 1Man1Sky

SkySpy asked two opposite questions and you start by saying, "That is correct." I don't know if you're side stepping or what so I will make it as easy to answer as possible:

1. The tune will work with an auto transmission. True or False
2. The tune will work but it will not produce the output numbers because the tune does not affect the transmission. True or False
3. In the future, there will be an update to the tune to affect the auto transmission. True or False
4. There will be no cost for the upgrade for the auto transmission (for those that purchased this tune already) when it is released. True or False

What he said!!!

Point blank I want to know if I can buy this tune and use it with my 3" Magnaflow, Fujita CAI, Auto tranny equipped 2008 RedLine with little or no trouble at all???

Also, once you release the TCM programming, would this be an extra charge or will it be provided to those who purchased the tune early for free???

Looks like you opened the flood gates with your announcement and i hope you can answer all of the posted questions directly and without being vague...

BA...

WishfulThinking · 08-20-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by G8TR

So once this is done you can swap back and forth if needed?

I think it's every time you swap. (even back to one that's been in the car.)

JustMike · 08-20-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WishfulThinking

But an ECM swap means a trip to the dealer for a crank relearn (or something like that), right?

Actually this is not correct for the ECM in the Turbo (2.0L) ... It is correct for the base (2.4L).

compdoc777 · 08-20-2008, 09:59 AM

Would it be correct to state that this tune only gives one in the area 263 whp and 289 torque to the wheels?

Also what additional mods are needed to get to this performance level?

Will a completely stock SKY RL make this power with just the tune?

richm · 08-20-2008, 10:06 AM

I am just reading this thread for the first time, but based upon my discussions with Martin, I wanted to let folks know that the $300 price currently on the website is NOT for a custom tune and is just for the first ten members who help with the testing and analysis of this tune. I am sure that Martin will answer other questions, but I recommend that you only do this now if you are willing to be part of the testing and feedback process.

If you want more data on how the tune works with a variety of aftermarket products and configurations, you may need to wait a couple of days or even weeks. I know that most of the people Martin has been working with so far have purchased an extra ECM, so that they can easily swap this out, and while all of the data and experiences have been pretty impressive so far, if you are not an "early adopter" type, you probably want to wait a little while before doing this tune.

**ceeker** · 08-20-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JustMike

Actually this is not correct for the ECM in the Turbo (2.0L) ... It is correct for the base (2.4L).

I can personally testify to this!

I purchased a blank ECM and sent it to Westers Garage and had it flashed with their tune. I installed it in my Redline (2.0) The 2.0 Redline DOES NOT require a crank relearn. It does require a security relearn but this is something you can do yourself just with your key!

The 2.4 does require a crank relearn. I was told the Bosh ECM in the Redline is self learning, while the 2.4 ECM is not!

**G8TR** · 08-20-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ceeker

It does require a security relearn but this is something you can do yourself just with your key!

So, how do you do the security relearn? Thanks ceeker!

SKY Spy · 08-20-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by richm

I am just reading this thread for the first time, but based upon my discussions with Martin, I wanted to let folks know that the $300 price currently on the website is NOT for a custom tune and is just for the first ten members who help with the testing and analysis of this tune. I am sure that Martin will answer other questions, but I recommend that you only do this now if you are willing to be part of the testing and feedback process.

Well, I would think that would had been an important piece of information for all of us to know...

BA...

**G8TR** · 08-20-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SKY Spy

Well, I would think that would had been an important piece of information for all of us to know...

BA...

Since mine is already on order, would have been nice if this was explained in the first part of this thread.

**ceeker** · 08-20-2008, 11:11 AM

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bun1t Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The streets Posts: 286 My Photos: (0)	How much is it for just the tune to load through a HPtuner? Do you sell HPtuners? If not, where is the cheapest place to get one? Would it cost anymore to have the rev limit raised to 7k? If we buy more mods later, how can we go about getting an updated tune? You can send me a PM if you want, but I'd like to purchase the tune asap. __________________ 2008 Sky Redline: Slow :( 2000 Ford ZX2: 50 trim turbo 303whp B5 Audi A4 1.8T: Slammed and Slow Kawasaki ZX6RR

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compdoc777 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 564 My Photos: (6)	Would it be correct to state that this tune only gives one in the area 263 whp and 289 torque to the wheels? Also what additional mods are needed to get to this performance level? Will a completely stock SKY RL make this power with just the tune? __________________ 07 SKY Redline Silver Red/Black Leather, JPM Dash Red leather, WDE Carbon Fiber Dash Kit, BSR Tune, Fujita Intake, Dejon IC pipes, Hahn IC, 3" Magnaflow Quad Exhaust, DDM BBK (RED), BlackCatCustom Gauges. http://www.compdoc777.com/Carstuff/sky1.jpg

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richm Supporting Vendor Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 481 My Photos: (6)	I am just reading this thread for the first time, but based upon my discussions with Martin, I wanted to let folks know that the $300 price currently on the website is NOT for a custom tune and is just for the first ten members who help with the testing and analysis of this tune. I am sure that Martin will answer other questions, but I recommend that you only do this now if you are willing to be part of the testing and feedback process. If you want more data on how the tune works with a variety of aftermarket products and configurations, you may need to wait a couple of days or even weeks. I know that most of the people Martin has been working with so far have purchased an extra ECM, so that they can easily swap this out, and while all of the data and experiences have been pretty impressive so far, if you are not an "early adopter" type, you probably want to wait a little while before doing this tune. __________________ Rich M Silver Pearl SKY named "Storm" Co-Founder, Phoenix Arizona Sky & Solstice Club Web Guy #2, GM Roadster Club for Saturn SKY, Pontiac Solstice & Opel GT Owners Last edited by richm : 08-20-2008 at 10:10 AM.

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saab9-3 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 104 My Photos: (0)	ill purchase as soon as i see the dyno

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WishfulThinking First 2000 Sr. Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 210 My Photos: (0)	But an ECM swap means a trip to the dealer for a crank relearn (or something like that), right?