2.0 SIDI Turbo Tuning Now Available!

[G8TR]

Originally Posted by lbsky

I went with the extra preprogrammed ECU. My thought is that if something does f-up then I will have the original to put back in. $400 is cheap compared to no warranty plus I can drive my car if I want to

I did the same thing when I ordered mine last night. I just got off the phone with Martin and he said that they hope to begin shipping within 2 weeks. Told me that the 310 hp is at the flywheel and since I live basically at sea level that it should translate to approximately 270 rwhp. I asked about upgrades down the line and they are already working on that also. He was very informative about all the questions I asked and also reiterated that the redlines WILL NOT need the crank relearn, only the security relearn that can be done without going to the dealer. I posted the procedure for that in post #51.

[bun1t]

Originally Posted by lbsky

I went with the extra preprogrammed ECU. My thought is that if something does f-up then I will have the original to put back in. $400 is cheap compared to no warranty plus I can drive my car if I want to

Yeah thats what I was thinking. It sucks to spend $400 when I really don't have to but it's better than fixing stuff on my car out of pocket. I guess i could always sell it later.

[lbsky]

Yep, I do not want to chance not having the original ECM. I am also glad I do not have to mess with the crank thing I just hope this thing does what it claims it can do thanks for the steps for the security relearn too.

[ceeker]

Also the dealer will update the ECM with any new updates from time to time so having your stock ECM in when you go to the dealer keeps them from flashing over the top of your new tune.

[GM Roadster Club]

Originally Posted by TempeRacerGuy

OK, I am new here, but I just want to make sure I have all of this correct...

First from information from your site

-Speed Limiter Removed

No questions here, this is obvious

-Air Fuel Ratio adjusted for better performance.
When you say "adjusted" do you mean leaned out? What affect does this have on economy Our test cars are getting 1-2 better mpg then they had before the tune

-Timing Calibrated for Premium Grade Fuel. (91+ octane).
Can you further advance timing for 93 octane fuel? Other tuners on other cars can offer maps if you're on Cali pee fuel, or the good stuff we can get in other states. Send me a note with your order and I'll make sure to set the timing for 93Oct.

-Low end torque and fuel economy improved by optimizing timing and boost.
Can you please describe the strategy of this "optimization" and how increased boost and "fuel economy improved" co-exsist, as whenever you increase boost, you have to increase fuel for cylinder cooling. While not under boost the additional timing will create a more optimal spark for better fuel economy

-Boost level raised from 16psi to 22.5psi
Self explainatory

-Retains factory “Competition Mode”
Do other tunes remove "Comp mode"? We are not sure what other tuners are doing, all we can say is that you will still have that option

-Optimized Air/Fuel Ratio for increased boost levels.
How does optimized air/fuel ratios increase boost levels?

-Drastic reduction in turbo lag (almost instantaneous 22.5psi Boost!)
Understood... done through recalibration of the solonoid maps.

-No substantial noise increase over stock tuning
Typically tunes dont increase noise unless you're dumping raw fuel into the pipes... but ok...


Now, here are my questions....

You can tune an 08 redline, correct? To these same performance levels? Yes

You say that you're currently limiting the redline to 6300. Is there a reason why you are not increasing to 7k? We feel there is more road testing needed in this area, so for now we are leaving it at 6300

You also state that you are willing to do custom tunes. How would this process be done? I would love to have a tune done for my specific combination of intake/exhaust/intercooler/downpipe.If you can get 8 cars together I will fly Steve out to your club for a Tech N' Tune Day

Will this remove any check engine lights I may get from a catless system?Yes we can turn that code off and typically do for Catless systems

You sent a PM in response to a question about HP tuners... I would like to know if this is locked out as well. No we do not lock our ECM's...They are your property and don't feel they should be locked

Can you create launch control like the BSR tune? We will look into it

Can you create a full throttle shift feature like other makes have?a no lift shift feature would require a drastic change to the core operating system of the car....so as of now...no


Sorry if I am bombarding you with questions. I am just very excited if all you state is correct, and this sounds like just what I was looking for with my 08 redline.

Thank you so much for your time. Subscribed and eagerly awaiting your response.

Austin T

Originally Posted by 1Man1Sky

SkySpy asked two opposite questions and you start by saying, "That is correct." I don't know if you're side stepping or what so I will make it as easy to answer as possible:

1. The tune will work with an auto transmission. True or False True
2. The tune will work but it will not produce the output numbers because the tune does not affect the transmission. True or False Auto's will make the same power at the motor that manuals do but will be delivered to the ground a bit differently...still a very noticeable gain
3. In the future, there will be an update to the tune to affect the auto transmission. True or False True, once we have the update for the Auto's we will make an announcement
4. There will be no cost for the upgrade for the auto transmission (for those that purchased this tune already) when it is released. True or False We will work with those who have purchased the tune

Originally Posted by 1Man1Sky

Does pre-flashed mean before it is flashed with your tune? In other words, the ECM costs $700 with no tune?

I'm a bit slow today and need it spelled out...

Originally Posted by rufusmacblorf

No, he means the whole thing is $700. (Martin sent me an email spelling it out for me, since I'm also a little slow. ) Here's what's included for the $700:

1) The new ECU (blank hardware)

2) A baseline flash (Think of this as the operating system or software starting point. Any tune needs this to start with. It's my understanding that nobody but GM can do this right now.)

3) An overlay flash (the tune) which adjusts selected baseline parameters.

Martin, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes you are correct, if you were to purchase an ECM from say GM Parts Direct and had it shipped to you you would receive a very expensive paperweight! ECM's come blank from GM and need to be first written with a base O/S. After that we go back in and re-calibrate or tune the maps.

Originally Posted by bun1t

How much is it for just the tune to load through a HPtuner? Same Price except you would get the file in an email

Do you sell HPtuners? If not, where is the cheapest place to get one? We are attempting to become a reseller for HPT, if that happens then we will be the lowest price

Would it cost anymore to have the rev limit raised to 7k? No, but you would be doing so against our recommendation

If we buy more mods later, how can we go about getting an updated tune?Send us back your ECM and we'll re-flash it for a small fee plus return

You can send me a PM if you want, but I'd like to purchase the tune asap.

Originally Posted by compdoc777

Would it be correct to state that this tune only gives one in the area 263 whp and 289 torque to the wheels? We have three more cars going to the dyno this weekend...we'll have concreate average numbers by next week.

Also what additional mods are needed to get to this performance level? None...just tighten your intercooler clamps

Will a completely stock SKY RL make this power with just the tune? This tune is written for stock cars, everything down to the air filter. We are not hiding any mods what so ever.

Originally Posted by bun1t

I placed my order, now I just need to figure out if I want to spend the extra $400 on a ECU or not. Does the dealer typically check for tunes? Or would I be safer having a stock ecu around to swap out?

They typicly do not check for tunes but if you take your car in for work and they see that there is a software update for your car and flash it with out asking you then your tune just disapered....Get a second ECM just to be safe.

Originally Posted by lbsky

Yep, I do not want to chance not having the original ECM. I am also glad I do not have to mess with the crank thing I just hope this thing does what it claims it can do thanks for the steps for the security relearn too.

All the car's that we have tuned have shown slight variences in power but every single one of them has had a smile from ear to ear...!

[TempeRacerGuy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bun1t
I placed my order, now I just need to figure out if I want to spend the extra $400 on a ECU or not. Does the dealer typically check for tunes? Or would I be safer having a stock ecu around to swap out?

They typicly do not check for tunes but if you take your car in for work and they see that there is a software update for your car and flash it with out asking you then your tune just disapered....Get a second ECM just to be safe.

First of all, I would like to thank you for your promptness and detailed explainations.

I have a question regarding the above. When saturn comes out with a TSB that includes a re-flash, can we get a corresponding re-flash for our cars? For example if they come out with a fix for some random AC idle up fix (non-exsistant people, just using it as a "what if") our custom computers will not have this fix... how can we get these TSBs incorporated into our custom computers?

Also, once dyno numbers are up, I will set up a dyno/flash day for Central Florida. I am sure I can get at least 8-10 people to do so. Can it be a mixture of Sky Redlines and Solstice GXPs?

What type of Dyno would you like to do the test/tunes on? I know a number of Dyno shops where we could rent the dyno out on to do this.

Thank you again,

Austin Tracy

[GM Roadster Club]

Originally Posted by TempeRacerGuy

Quote:
Originally Posted by bun1t
I placed my order, now I just need to figure out if I want to spend the extra $400 on a ECU or not. Does the dealer typically check for tunes? Or would I be safer having a stock ecu around to swap out?

They typicly do not check for tunes but if you take your car in for work and they see that there is a software update for your car and flash it with out asking you then your tune just disapered....Get a second ECM just to be safe.

First of all, I would like to thank you for your promptness and detailed explainations.

I have a question regarding the above. When saturn comes out with a TSB that includes a re-flash, can we get a corresponding re-flash for our cars? For example if they come out with a fix for some random AC idle up fix (non-exsistant people, just using it as a "what if") our custom computers will not have this fix... how can we get these TSBs incorporated into our custom computers?
The best way to handle this would be to have a spare ECU flashed with the new TSB updates and then have us re-flash so that you get the best results
Also, once dyno numbers are up, I will set up a dyno/flash day for Central Florida. I am sure I can get at least 8-10 people to do so. Can it be a mixture of Sky Redlines and Solstice GXPs?
THey can also be a mix up of Base 2.4L's to help reach the number....
What type of Dyno would you like to do the test/tunes on? I know a number of Dyno shops where we could rent the dyno out on to do this.
I'll have Steve get with you individually on this.
Thank you again,

Austin Tracy

we also have three GMR chapters in Florida that may be able to contribute to your Dyno Day

[emik]

Is this mod valid for an OPEL GT?

If yes do you ship in Europe/Greece?

Is the spare ECM available for the OPEL GT?

Thanks in advance.

[clif]

Originally Posted by G8TR

I did the same thing when I ordered mine last night. I just got off the phone with Martin and he said that they hope to begin shipping within 2 weeks. Told me that the 310 hp is at the flywheel and since I live basically at sea level that it should translate to approximately 270 rwhp. I asked about upgrades down the line and they are already working on that also. He was very informative about all the questions I asked and also reiterated that the redlines WILL NOT need the crank relearn, only the security relearn that can be done without going to the dealer. I posted the procedure for that in post #51.

What Dyno was used to check the WHP?

Clif

[G8TR]

Originally Posted by clif

What Dyno was used to check the WHP?

Clif

All of the dyno numbers are supposed to be posted next week.

[GM Roadster Club]

Originally Posted by emik

Is this mod valid for an OPEL GT?

If yes do you ship in Europe/Greece?

Is the spare ECM available for the OPEL GT?

Thanks in advance.

The short answer is No Because the ECM's that come to us are Blank and have to be written for the car they are being tuned for, I would have no way to write for an Opel with out being at an Opel Dealership with a Tech2.

Thank you,

Martin

[Elff]

Martin

Does your Flash include the Brake TSB code?

[clif]

Originally Posted by G8TR

All of the dyno numbers are supposed to be posted next week.

OK, then, what type WILL be used to test? Various types give vastly different results.

Clif

[G8TR]

Originally Posted by clif

OK, then, what type WILL be used to test? Various types give vastly different results.

Clif

I have nothing to do with this, just what I was told. You will have to ask that of Martin.(GM Roadster) I am only a member like everyone else here, looking for information.

[clif]

Originally Posted by G8TR

I have nothing to do with this, just what I was told. You will have to ask that of Martin.(GM Roadster) I am only a member like everyone else here, looking for information.

Not a problem I was just posting the question for all to see the answers! Thanks for Replying, I don't know for sure who's who!

Clif

[KimberlySky]

And what about us 2.4 people??????

[Elff]

It's hard to increase boost without a turbo
But they are working diligently to figure it out with a software turbo emulation program

[G8TR]

Originally Posted by KimberlySky

And what about us 2.4 people??????

They can do a tune on your 2.4 also Kim. At least that's what I read.