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post #16 of 24 (permalink) Old 07-08-2011, 04:20 PM Thread Starter
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I hope we can continue the space program. We get a lot more out of it than people realize.



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The last shuttle. I think they should just leave them in space attached to the space station. Once they are in space you can use them to ferry back and forth to sats and other. They could launch cargo into space and have the shuttles pick the cargo up and take it to resources.
How will you fuel the shuttle?
It needs fuel cell replenishment for basic power needs.
It needs thruster replenishment for maneuver.
I doubt either replenishment method is on-orbit capable.

There are probably a hundred other items that need routine maintenance and/or replacements....which can only happen on earth. A shuttle docked at Space station will atrophy....quickly.

Speaking of maneuver, the shuttle does not have the intrinsic energy to service any satellites outside a very narrow orbital band within its current orbit plane. It can't (never could) reach the Geostationary commsats. It could do some Hubble work. But again, it has to be launched into the Hubble's plane. It can't just undock from the space station and fly around space like we see in the movies. Moving about orbits, changing orbital planes and what not, takes enormous amounts of energy. The Shuttle doesn't have this energy...never did.

In fact, I doubt there are any serviceable satellites within the energy range of a fully fueled shuttle docked at the space station.

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How will you fuel the shuttle?
It needs fuel cell replenishment for basic power needs.
It needs thruster replenishment for maneuver.
I doubt either replenishment method is on-orbit capable.

There are probably a hundred other items that need routine maintenance and/or replacements....which can only happen on earth. A shuttle docked at Space station will atrophy....quickly.

Speaking of maneuver, the shuttle does not have the intrinsic energy to service any satellites outside a very narrow orbital band within its current orbit plane. It can't (never could) reach the Geostationary commsats. It could do some Hubble work. But again, it has to be launched into the Hubble's plane. It can't just undock from the space station and fly around space like we see in the movies. Moving about orbits, changing orbital planes and what not, takes enormous amounts of energy. The Shuttle doesn't have this energy...never did.

In fact, I doubt there are any serviceable satellites within the energy range of a fully fueled shuttle docked at the space station.
In other words, this puppy is obsolete..

we need a newer, improved HIGH powered shuttle, call it the kappatle




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Mankind's ability to look into the future, and step off into realms that only a few years before were impossibilities....that is our future. We can invest in ignorant existence or we can push to the stars. Develop the talent. Keep the talent. Pass the talent onto other generations. Keep reaching.

Our ability to manage and control space will ultimately be necessary in order to manage and control our survival as a species.

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I thought the idea was to give other countries billions of tax payer dollars to haul our **** up to space in one of their vehicles until the private sector steps up to the plate.

Anyway, I don't think its the NASA guys retiring the shuttle fleet, it's the politicians. Some people did vote for change...
yeah, too bad they couldn't take Mr.Change Obummer with them and leave him at the space station.


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This is the proposed next generation spacecraft. Overgrown Apollo capsule - back to the future.
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Today the space shuttle came to park at the "international" space station for the very last time.



The orbital research outpost was essentially designed, built, and funded by the American taxpayer.
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After 12 days, 18 hours . . . and 5 million miles . . .
America's space shuttle Atlantis is now back on Earth.


The End of a Great Era in American space exploration.
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