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Love the wheels on the Solstice. The Solstice is growing on me.

As for the pictured Astra, it looks great. I don't know how much it sells for, but there are other great looking hot hatches out there. Mazda ones look like that to me. For utility's sake though, I want 5 doors...

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Got it home and it was a fun drive love the rain sensing wipers and there are so many quirks, 5 points to the first person to go test drive one and tell me how the cruise control works. I know now but it is different than I was used to. No googling!
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Got it home and it was a fun drive love the rain sensing wipers and there are so many quirks, 5 points to the first person to go test drive one and tell me how the cruise control works. I know now but it is different than I was used to. No googling!
Is it not just a standard system with the rocker switch at the end of the stalk?
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As for the pictured Astra, it looks great. I don't know how much it sells for, but there are other great looking hot hatches out there. Mazda ones look like that to me. For utility's sake though, I want 5 doors...
When I was at the Frankfurt Auto Show a few months ago I looked at all of the hatches. I still think the Opel is the best looking, but the overall winner in my eyes is still the Mazda3--handsome design, lots of interior space, very clever layout, very high quality fit and finish, and excellent driving dynamics, if not somewhat underpowered.

Looking at photos and reading about it, I thought I would really love the new Honda Civic hatchback, but it was really uncomfortable, the interior was low quality, the stereo system was incomprehensible, and the shifter feel was shockingly poor, I used to own an old Jeep that had more positive shift feel. I haven't had a chance to drive it yet, but based on first impressions it's amazing that a brand new car could compare so poorly to the much older Mazda.

My other old favorite was the previous generation Renault Megane, but the new car just looks odd and I think they've taken a big step backwards with the interior. It's a real shame because the old car looked great, especially the Renaultsport models.
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When I was at the Frankfurt Auto Show a few months ago I looked at all of the hatches. I still think the Opel is the best looking, but the overall winner in my eyes is still the Mazda3--handsome design, lots of interior space, very clever layout, very high quality fit and finish, and excellent driving dynamics, if not somewhat underpowered.

Looking at photos and reading about it, I thought I would really love the new Honda Civic hatchback, but it was really uncomfortable, the interior was low quality, the stereo system was incomprehensible, and the shifter feel was shockingly poor, I used to own an old Jeep that had more positive shift feel. I haven't had a chance to drive it yet, but based on first impressions it's amazing that a brand new car could compare so poorly to the much older Mazda.

My other old favorite was the previous generation Renault Megane, but the new car just looks odd and I think they've taken a big step backwards with the interior. It's a real shame because the old car looked great, especially the Renaultsport models.
I have an 07 Mazda 3 wagon. I plan to drive that thing til the wheels fall off. For what it cost to buy, for what it costs to run it, its utility, and for the fun of it, there's not really a daily driver I'd rather drive right now. Sure, it's starting to show its age - but I have now reason to get a different one. I completely agree with you on Honda's offerings: I wouldn't ever have another Honda, AND that Megane (like 2012 gen?) was gorgeous. That's a car I'd have if I lived in Europe.
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Got it home and it was a fun drive love the rain sensing wipers and there are so many quirks, 5 points to the first person to go test drive one and tell me how the cruise control works. I know now but it is different than I was used to. No googling!
Is it not just a standard system with the rocker switch at the end of the stalk?
Yup you're correct. I have just never seen that setup in a car before. Is that a European thing? Most cruise controls I see on cars here are on the steering wheel.

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I found one in Rockford Illinios and I'm going to pick it up this weekend (its supposed to be -6 there on saturday so I'm going to die since I'm a florida boy)
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I wish I would have read this before I left. My toes were freezing in my flip flops. J/K. But man -1 degrees how do you northerners survive that every winter. That was crazy, so glad to be back in fl
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Yup you're correct. I have just never seen that setup in a car before. Is that a European thing? Most cruise controls I see on cars here are on the steering wheel.
Pretty much all of the European brands have a similar arrangement. But you're right, now that I think about it, many of the more recent American cars I've driven have buttons on the steering wheel. I feel like it wasn't that long ago (80's, 90's) that American cars had the control on the stalk as well, though it wasn't a rocker switch, it was more of a switch you pushed in towards the wheel to set, and pulled out to cancel.
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Yup you're correct. I have just never seen that setup in a car before. Is that a European thing? Most cruise controls I see on cars here are on the steering wheel.
Uhm, no just old school. back when you did 3 things with a steering wheel, turn right, turn left, hit the horn. All the controls were on the stalks. LOL Here I thought GM had just gone and done something stupid.

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I actually like them on the Solstice. They look good. MM, you just don't like them because they aren't shod in whitewalls. LOL

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Yup you're correct. I have just never seen that setup in a car before. Is that a European thing? Most cruise controls I see on cars here are on the steering wheel.
My 2004 GMC Sierra is like that with the cruise control on the turn signal stalk. I always get lost for a moment when I go from driving my Sky to driving the truck and looking to set it. LOL Either that or I'm just getting old.
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But man -1 degrees how do you northerners survive that every winter..
That's a warm winter day where I come from I used to live in the heart of the Canadian Prairies where it's not uncommon to have 3 week stretches of -40C or -40F weather and that is before the wind chill. Trust me NO FLIP FLOPS!!!! Do you even know what a Block Heater is?


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That's a warm winter day where I come from I used to live in the heart of the Canadian Prairies where it's not uncommon to have 3 week stretches of -40C or -40F weather and that is before the wind chill. Trust me NO FLIP FLOPS!!!! Do you even know what a Block Heater is?


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If I recall correctly, the point at which the Celsius and Farenheit scales coincide.


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If I recall correctly, the point at which the Celsius and Farenheit scales coincide.
That would be correct and minus 18 C is 0 F
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