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Just had mine done at a local former Saturn dealership for $1100. The gave me a loner vehicle also since I lived 30 miles away. I'm very happy with the results. I looked around at other options too. My mechanic said it was a big job and I could tell he was nervous about doing it. He quoted around $900. End the end I was happy I went with the dealer. It gave me piece of mind that it would be done properly. Best of luck!

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The printout shows they want $280 for the pump....won't let me bring my own. Grrrr.
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My shop would fix it if when, er, if they screwed it up, but I honestly have more faith in the dealership to do it. The owner of my garage told me they've never had one of those in there, and he'd be nervous about the work.

I went back into the shop area at the dealership, and the old-ish guy back there sort of rolled his eyes, and not in a surly way, when I started asking about it. He sort of acted like it would be a dawdle and that he'd done it before. Told me they had the chain-tension tool, and that getting it done would be no problem.

The shop I'm waiting to hear back from is a pretty reputable shop and I have a close/trusted friend in common with the owner. They are both "pillars of the community" types, so the work would be guaranteed, and the pressure I could put on the owner via the other friend might work to my advantage.

I'm still leaning toward the dealership.
I would be nervous if the shop owner is nervous. Find someone that has done the work and/or will stand behind their crew. Help them out if needed.

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I've 90% ruled out my normal shop for the reason you mention, Endstate. My problem with the dealership is that I think $280 for OEM pump (from Denver) is a bit high, and they won't let me buy my own for them to put on. "Liability issues and....." B.F.S. If I get the OEM for cheaper, and they are still doing the labor and not trying to make money on the part, I don't see the difference. $1 in my pocket is better than $1 in theirs. I'm not greedy, but the owner isn't going to eat any better nor any worse if they don't charge me $280 for the part.
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Dealership repair you get warranty with it. IF you can get the same kind of deal from the other shop( not likely ) then you could save costs with your parts buy outsourced from wherever. With the dealer repair, you get " their" costs on parts & labor. It is what it is. You can show them the OEM pricing from your source, but they are still not going to do it, because of their liability issue with that. Sure they could do it, to save you some money, your parts their labor, but with no warranty? Some dealer & mechanics will work with you some, and some dealers and mechanics won't. It's your money, you decide which piece of mind, you want to satisfy here. Theirs or yours?

To work on the Eco-Tech or not. Has dealer ever worked on the Kappa before? Has the shop ever worked on a Kappa before? Results of their work, owner comments about the workmanship preformed? Any return visits, to re-repair said work? Having had someone who has worked on the model before, compared to someone who has not, might just be the determining factor here for you to decide which way to go or not?

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LAC Sky, your point about the warranty is well-taken, and I've considered that. I have contacted a couple of other shops and am waiting to hear back. I know that I'll be treated right by both of them, and that treatment will include a warranty, even if I bring my own. I'm not a control freak, but sometimes it's nice to have the illusion of control - esp when it comes to a few bucks: I might be penny wise and pound foolish, but I don't think so. I have always been under the impression that I CAN have it all, if I do some work.

The dealer has def worked on Kappa. They used to sell them, and they're the only place I've seen around here lately that's had one on their lot. I will look for some reviews or just ask the tech directly. I'm not scared of that. It's my money and their work. Fair deal.

I'll post when I find out more.
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I contacted a local mechanic/exhaust specialist shop that came highly recommended (has done work for my buddy as well as my brother). He came back with 602 plus tax. He doesn't know how much more putting the thermostat into the mix will cost. Anyone have a feel for it, so I can kind of know? He's thinking it should add ~$250. Shouldn't be that much, right? Especially since he's already "in there"...

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This is for replacing the water pump? Yea, it shouldn't cost another $250 to replace the thermostat at that point. He'll have it out already with the water pump. At that point it's 2 additional 10mm (?) bolts and the $20 thermostat...


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The problem I have seen with "bring your own" parts is how a warranty issue is handled. Was it a bad part or bad installation, and who decides which?
If you supply a bad part you will have to pay the additional labor for the replacement, but if the shop supplies it the whole cost should be on them.
Part of the mark-up on the part is the shop hedging against having to replace a failed part, so you are gambling your initial savings against the odds of failure.
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$1100. is nothing to shake a stick at. Expensive as hell, sure it is, car repair is Big Business. We all cringe at the sound of well.. we have found out the problem,.. and it's not good. Oh no that expensive feeling again, just hit my checkbook or the dent this will put into my credit card.

Warranty or lack there of. Let them F this up, it's all on them for the parts and labor. No SM likes a warranty repair return order. Piece of mind for the owner, is to get it fixed first, get it right second, and make sure I don't have to return to fix this again third. Let them deal with the problems and the time taken. Yes you do have to pay for it, but then again " your " not having to deal with it, or having your baby worked on by unknowns. Yes brand new right out of the box parts can be bad right from the mfg. It does happen, how will you know if your part is good, to begin with?

Thermostat replacement should be part of this repair, along with any suspect belts/hoses. How far or how much are you willing to spend/afford when it is torn down is the question? Do it now while all is apart. Nothing like going back or having another related issue with your cooling system, after the fact. No owner likes to throw money at fixing sh*t. Tight and on a budget, until I don't have a choice. What is the dealer warranty for this repair? 1 yr/12K or 90 days/3k miles? Watch for anything during the parts warranty period, that trips your trigger as to " that's not right, oh no I have to return to the dealer" for this problem again. You will thank yourself, for all the money you had to pony up front, when or if it comes to that return visit. Another diagnostic fee, another hour @ $105. a pop, oh no not this time I paid for that, the first time I was in here.

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I'm taking it to the well-respected local indy shop - not to my normal guys down the street. Comes with some sort of warranty. Part is 3yrs, I think. I'll iron it out with him before I let him take the car.

I told him what I'd gleaned from the info above about the thermostat. I don't like the cost, but I'm looking at it all as an investment in my future - in lots of ways. I want to make sure that I can make it to Lexington and everywhere and anywhere else I want to go. The car runs now, but I just don't want to take any chances with it for now.

I'll update with any info as it becomes available.

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My Sky is at the mechanic's shop. Will be done Mon PM or Tues.

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Let us know what he tells you about cost to replace the t-stat. It should be the part plus less than $50 I bet for the time to do it. He probably quoted you book rate based on time not realizing that there was a lot of overlap between t-stat replacement and water pump replacement.


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I'm thinking that's the case. I'll post w/ drive report as well as with the cost of adding the T-stat. $50 sounds good. "Ah hell, we just did it" sounds better. I'd pay the $50 gladly.

Turns out that one of my former students works in the shop, and asked the bossman if it was me. As I have developed a small crack in the windshield and since I know this kid's dad worked for a glass company I asked the shop guy about having the kid's dad check it out too. Then I asked who they'd suggest for the fender repair. It's only money...

Thank you so much for the quality and quantity of guidance that all of you have provided thus far. This is really a quality place.

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Car was finished today, but I pick my car up tomorrow. $792 out-the-door: new water pump new thermostat, and some rando hose clamps, etc. Dunno if mine were rotten or what....the thermostat labor was $17 and change. Certainly a much better deal, and from a place that comes much more highly recommended than the dealership. I will have the dealership do the ignition warranty work though.

I was told that "The water pump was definitely leaking and the thermostat was degrading internally as well." Do I need to have them drain the coolant and use a different type? Is there anything I should ask when I go to pick it up?

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