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post #31 of 55 (permalink) Old 03-12-2019, 09:41 PM
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I asked the service guy at the dealership if this was ANYTHING to do with electrical. He said sadly no.
It could be marginally electrical, although not in a way that a computer reset would fix. The vent valve is electrically operated to close when the car is running, and it could stick closed. I really think this is more likely than the rollover valve, since it operates every time the power is cycled while the rollover valve should only close when the car gets upside down.
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I dont have a service manual because I am not a car fix it guy except the basic stuff however since being partially disabled I farm out 95% of the work that you Sky guys do yourself. The fellow at the dealership said he was familiar with this problem and I will have it diagnosed for sure in one week.
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.......PS: Moose... pretty sure that comment about the service manual was meant for Robo
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I asked the service guy at the dealership if this was ANYTHING to do with electrical. He said sadly no.
It could be marginally electrical, although not in a way that a computer reset would fix. The vent valve is electrically operated to close when the car is running, and it could stick closed. I really think this is more likely than the rollover valve, since it operates every time the power is cycled while the rollover valve should only close when the car gets upside down.
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I dont have a service manual because I am not a car fix it guy except the basic stuff however since being partially disabled I farm out 95% of the work that you Sky guys do yourself. The fellow at the dealership said he was familiar with this problem and I will have it diagnosed for sure in one week.
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Yes, that was directed at Robo. Apologies for not being clear.
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I will tell this info to the service rep next tuesday and maybe he can circumvent the dropping the fuel tank deal. however I am not very hopeful about that because they pretty much go by the book and they hold all the cards in my position. So we will keep you posted as to what happens. Thank you all for your input. It is greatly appreciated.
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I just can't get over the fact that you do not have a service manual. But I guess as long as the rest of us do ......

The rollover valve is at the top of the tank, part of the evap hose quick-disconnect fitting, and is a ball-float check valve that prevents fuel from flowing out of the evap hose if the car rolls over. Hence the name.
I'll admit I've never heard of the roll over valve. Makes sense though.

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....... Yea Yea Yea...I keep meaning to get one...LOL Everytime I find one for sale it's a bad time and when it's a good time I totally forget to look for one. LOL
I know that this isn't much of a problem where you are, but I hope that you never get a leak in your roof.
You won't be able to work on it in the rain, and when it isn't raining it won't need to be fixed.

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I know that this isn't much of a problem where you are, but I hope that you never get a leak in your roof.
You won't be able to work on it in the rain, and when it isn't raining it won't need to be fixed.
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I dont have a service manual because I am not a car fix it guy except the basic stuff however since being partially disabled I farm out 95% of the work that you Sky guys do yourself. The fellow at the dealership said he was familiar with this problem and I will have it diagnosed for sure in one week.
I think johnwr was referring to Robo as he is a fix it car guy and not to you Moosebreath
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Sorry guys I should have read all the posts before my quote to Mousebreath
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No worries. All the wires are uncrossed. Good to go and thanks again.
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This seems to be a sorta common problem. I've had it a few months and got around to replacing the canister valve, with no luck. Better weather has come and don't have a garage,here's what I tried and couldn't believe it worked. The lines coming out of the canister are what you are after. The fattest line had charcoal stuck in it, causing a clog. I used a shop vac and sucked it out, then blew it out to make sure with the vac. The fat line I think goes from the fuel pump to the canister, the fuel pump side is hard to get off, I just loosen it to get a better flow. This can all be done through the opening for the fuel pump. Just don't know how the charcoal made it out of the canister to the line.
It's an easy fix and might help some of us with the problem, cause I tried everything that has been posted here with no luck.

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Took the Sky to the GM dealer. The e vap canister, I think that is the correct terminology, has ruptured and needs to be replaced and there is little chunks of charcoal in the lines going to the fuel tank. There is no charcoal on the way to my engine. They are in the process of tearing out everything so they can drop the fuel tank. It can be fixed It's just a pain in the butt and expensive in labor hours to get to it. They will not under any circumstances go through the trunk because that requires non-factory spec cutting and my go to mechanic and a second mechanic would not touch this fix. So it is at the dealership right now and will ultimately be fixed. That's where we stand. FYI
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Glad that you found the problem, sorry that it is going to be expensive.

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Glad that you found the problem, sorry that it is going to be expensive.
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Meh, builds character. LOL

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Meh, builds character. LOL

Seriously though glad you found the issue and are getting it resolved.
Builds character. HA! Is that what they're callin it now? After 65 years I have more than enough character. I needed no help with the build. Just a speed bump in the parking lot of my life. Thanks to this forum I was, at least, able to talk somewhat intelligently about this problem and fix. Appreciated!!
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