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Can someone verify that there were no silver 2010 sky's made? As I found a listing for one for sale, and I'm being told I'm incorrect, thanks.
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Can someone verify that there were no silver 2010 sky's made? As I found a listing for one for sale, and I'm being told I'm incorrect, thanks.
4 Black, 1 Kinetic Blue and 3 Dark Labyrinth Metallic. No Silver.

What was the Vin (last 8) of the one for sale?



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Could it be that Dark Layrinth could be stretched to be Silver? Maybe? In odd lighting?


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Could it be that Dark Layrinth could be stretched to be Silver? Maybe? In odd lighting?
Possibly, people call silver as grey and vice versa quite often.



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that is silver pearl, most definitely
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tporter, if the photo is the one claimed as a 2010, just look at the 10th character of the VIN (left to right). A digit of 7, 8, or 9 means it is NOT a 2010 model (meaning its a 2007, 2008 or 2009). A digit 'A' ,I believe, is the model year 2010's. It will be the digit to the left of the 'Y' which means the identification of the factory of manufacture. And that is ALWAYS Wilmington, Delaware.

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A note on GM VINs: the last 8 characters of a GM VIN are a unique shortcut identifier of that car within the GM realm. Let's take my Solstice, the last 8 of my VIN are "6Y000741":

6 stands for model year 2006
Y stands for Wilmington, Delaware Plant
000741 indicates a sequence number at the plant for that year. In my case it indicates my car is number 741 of the first 1000 promotion.

A 2010 VIN from Wilmington (All Solstice, Sky, Opel GT, and Daewoo G2x) will be AY1000xx, where the xx is between 01 and 30 (There were only 30 2010 Kappas built.)

That is it.



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A note on GM VINs: the last 8 characters of a GM VIN are a unique shortcut identifier of that car within the GM realm. Let's take my Solstice, the last 8 of my VIN are "6Y000741":

6 stands for model year 2006
Y stands for Wilmington, Delaware Plant
000741 indicates a sequence number at the plant for that year. In my case it indicates my car is number 741 of the first 1000 promotion.
I know DaveOC knows this as do many others...so this information is for those who may run across this and not be aware...but the sequence number is a bit wonky after mid 2007 Sky models.

For the Model Year (MY) 2006, all VINs are for the Solstice since the Sky wasn't released until the following MY. For Sky MY2007, for part of the model year Skys had independent sequence numbers meaning you could tell what your production number was from the VIN like Dave mentions above with his. Same with the two early build Skys I have owned.

The reason for this (I believe) is because MY2006 Solstices were built from their initial release until July 1 2006. MY2007 Skys however were built from December 2005 until July 1, 2007. Starting July 1 2007, Solstices and Skys would change MYs every July 1 (July 1, 2007 = MY2008, July 1, 2008 = MY2009 etc)

So after July 1, 2006 (when Solstices went from being MY2006 to MY2007) the VIN sequence numbers combined. So while you may know what number KAPPA your vehicle is off the line (like he mentioned with the 2010 VINs), you may not know what number Sky or what number Solstice your car was off the line.

Though some of us have the GM database that would allow us to figure that out. LOL


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Complicated by the fact that in the Solstice side of the VIN situation, there were 3 sets of sequential VINs that were intermixed.

In MY2006 the Solstices started with 6Y100001 up through about 6Y100700 or so, then there were the First 1000: 6Y000001 through 6Y001000, then back to regular production starting where the left off at about 6Y100700 or so.

Then there are the coupes: When they started making coupes, they were mixed in along with the Skys and the Solstice convertibles. The first 101 coupes were mixed in with the rest of the production, Skys, Sol convertibles, Opel GTs and Daewoo G2x (not many of those). Everything was in a sequence starting with 9Y100001. Then the Coupes switched over to an alternate numbering 9Y000001 to 9Y001152. In addition, there were 30 pre-production 2010 Solstices, Skys, and Opel-GTs mixed in to the model year schema, but this happened regularly toward the end of a model year. Most of us paid attention to it for the 2010 pre-production units because we knew production was going to end.

In addition, the cars were not started down the line in strict numerical order, though most of the time it was fairly close, but the realities of computer inventory control and just-in-time inventory control will affect production at this point.

Then there is also the fact that cars on the production line can be busted out of the line for a number of reasons, and then busted back into the line later when the reason for the bust-out is solved.

So, with all of that, it is near impossible to determine with much accuracy the order in which cars came off the end of the line.

And while I have a database that one can figure this out from, to a degree, that database does not include the Canadian, Mexican, Korean and/or European kappa cars.

The only source I know of that can identify, within reason, the order in which cars were completed and ready for shipment is the GM Heritage Museum.

Totally confused by now? Those of us that know how it works sure are!

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In addition, the cars were not started down the line in strict numerical order, though most of the time it was fairly close, but the realities of computer inventory control and just-in-time inventory control will affect production at this point.

Then there is also the fact that cars on the production line can be busted out of the line for a number of reasons, and then busted back into the line later when the reason for the bust-out is solved.

So, with all of that, it is near impossible to determine with much accuracy the order in which cars came off the end of the line.

And while I have a database that one can figure this out from, to a degree, that database does not include the Canadian, Mexican, Korean and/or European kappa cars.

The only source I know of that can identify, within reason, the order in which cars were completed and ready for shipment is the GM Heritage Museum.
I think our Database is the closest we can get to determining about where our cars fit in on the production order. The Canadian and Mexican cars are what screw us up since "technically" the European and Korean cars were not Skys. (this is IF you want to know what number Sky or Solstice your car was off the line...not Kappa in general)

Like you said, Heritage is about the only definitive source especially the later you get in production. I think us early owners have an easier time of it. Less variables. LOL
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I think our Database is the closest we can get to determining about where our cars fit in on the production order. The Canadian and Mexican cars are what screw us up since "technically" the European and Korean cars were not Skys. (this is IF you want to know what number Sky or Solstice your car was off the line...not Kappa in general) . . . . .
After a lot of work I was able to compile a complete (to the best of my knowledge it is complete) list for Solstice, Coupe, Sky, GT and G2X. This list includes all the exports, all the full-VIN and also all production dates for almost all exports.

So it is relatively easy for me to find out how many cars where built on the days before a specific cars was built. That number is based on facts.
With an educated guess I can determine in what order cars where built on the day the specific car was built and determine how many cars where built before the specific car on that same day.
Adding these numbers up will give the number (with an excellent reliability) of cars built before a specific car rolled off the line

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