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post #31 of 62 (permalink) Old 05-02-2018, 06:21 PM
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The Aztek could've been a TRUE "utility" vehicle had they cared enough to make it attractive. I agree w/ Moosebreath in his amazement that someone somewhere greenlit some of these automotive oddities! I've seen a couple of the hotted-up Jukes in town that don't look too bad at all, but they don't look like the others.

My SUV is an 07 Mazda3 wagon - it still looks okay, even if the tail lights look a bit racer-boyish. I can carry anything in there. I have hauled 3 MTB at once multiple times. I can put 1 (if not 2) of them in there without removing the front wheel. I haul furniture of all types/sizes in there. It's a joke amongst my friends, that the way people look when I first show up to haul something and the way they look when I load it THEN close the hatch door: "Are you going to try to get THIS in THERE?". I love to see their faces in the rearview as I drive away. I'd like a newer CX-5 or a newer 3, but I don't really NEED one, so I'll keep driving this 'til it doesn't drive anymore.

I would guess the guy that said it was ugly knew well what it is, and that he had an axe to grind. Just happens that Huff's happened to be the one that helped him unburden himself of the problem. Nobody is going to wait around to tell the owner of a car that their car is ugly. They might do it on a forum dedicated to a certain car...

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My wife has a Mazda 3 - 2013, last year before they lost the happy grin front styling and went to the superior style they've used since then. I managed to get a full sized theatre recliner into it (in two parts, back and base) even though the store told me there was no way. I have also had 30 Rhododendrons in the back (with zero rear visibility). Amazingly useful, handle better than the minivans and easier on gas.
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I looked at a Honda when buying the FJ. Salesman tried to convince me it was off road worthy due to the AWD and 1 extra inch of clearance. Forgot to mention the piece almost directly in the middle of the car that sticks straight down two or three inches.

As for the Juke, Maybe people will drive these things at night, we better stick some lights on it! And they did!! I had one I would make the lights look like snake eyes, and dangle a tongue from the front of it. And without a doubt make the wife drive it!!!!
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I swear the folks here at work LOVE the damn Element. I had two out of the 10 people who work in my office own them and then there were probably another dozen or so owned by other folks that work here.

I will say they are handy little things though. Kind of like the Azztec with the plastic floors and hoseable interior.
the element is an excellent little car. Super spacious, rugged inside and tons of useable space. Reliable and awd to boot.
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I don't think anyone ever said the Element was a bad car/minivan, just that it is an ugly one.

Why can't we have utility PLUS decent looks?

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My wife has a Mazda 3 - 2013, last year before they lost the happy grin front styling and went to the superior style they've used since then. I managed to get a full sized theatre recliner into it (in two parts, back and base) even though the store told me there was no way. I have also had 30 Rhododendrons in the back (with zero rear visibility). Amazingly useful, handle better than the minivans and easier on gas.
10 bags of mulch was the last haul mine was used for. Gotta get 10 more. For fwd it handles pretty well. I like the looks of all of them. I like the 1st gen to the current one. My mpg are bonkers when I take it on long trips (avg ~33mpg and I'm not hyper-miling).

I considered the Element...and a salesman that tried to tell me/ANYONE that it could go nearly off-road compared to an FJ must be desperate for a sale! As it is a Honda, and after having owned 3, I realized that the bang for the buck wasn't nearly good enough for me. My friend that owns a truck lot had the Mazda sitting out there, and it made much more sense. I'm not completely sure I'd call the Element ugly. With very little work they can be made to look quite "cool" (whatever that means).

I feel pretty happy with the cars I have right now.

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10 bags of mulch was the last haul mine was used for. Gotta get 10 more.
Reminds me of when I had a bunch of my cars, including a vintage Lamborghini on a collector plate that restricted everyday use, so I used them for weekend chores. Used the Lambo to pick up sacks of steer manure at a local nursery supply and without thinking told the kid with the pallet of manure to drop mine off behind the Lambo and he laughed, thinking I was joking. It would only take around 6 sacks, though; the Jensen has a big back window hatch and takes double that!

Don't usually take the Solstice coupe to the garden shop no that my wife has the Mazda!

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Since this is my thread...I will change the post for a sec.

Did anyone see the NEW Lexus LC500 Platinum EDITION...I am not talking about the LC500...the new Platinum Edition. It is AMAZING.
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...have at it...

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I just saw my first one of those on the road the other day. Looks really sharp in person. Don't think it was a Platinum Edition. Will have to look that one up to see what the differences are.


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Since this is my thread...I will change the post for a sec.

Did anyone see the NEW Lexus LC500 Platinum EDITION...I am not talking about the LC500...the new Platinum Edition. It is AMAZING.
The basic styling looks good, but I just can't get past the ugly front grille work they seem so taken with.




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Where did you get the picture of my mom?? When I was a bad boy THATS what she looked like, comming at me with a pain administering device of some sort in her hand.
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It was reported that customers of the Juke mainly consisted of young buyers and the elderly, resulting in an average age in the late 40s.[23]

In Europe, it is Nissan's second best-selling car behind the Qashqai. U.S. sales of the Juke are slowing in 2015, but the crossover sold an impressive 38,000 units in 2013 and 2014, and about 36,000 copies in 2011 and 2012


This is I believe US sales figures for the Juke. One can only speculate what the increase might have been had they come with White Sidewall Tires!


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Juke
2017 10.157
2016 19.577
2015 27.121
2014 38.184
2013 38.157
2012 36.358
2011 35.886
2010 8.639
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Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder, but some autos certainly take the prize. Lets hope that the future autonomous vehicles are designed like some of the lesser appealing designs of the past... something that makes you say "What Were They Thinking" and "Just Say No".
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Have to admit that my daily driver is a 2013 Juke. Sure its funky looking but not ugly to me! I like it because its not the typical gutless shoe box economy car. It's turbo'd 1.6L is responsive and I'm getting about 30mpg. It was a cheap econo car that isn't sluggish like so many others. I have the Sky for weekend day trips and a diesel 4x4 Ram for towing and snow as well as a Durango when traveling with kids. I'm covered!
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