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post #16 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-12-2018, 09:13 AM Thread Starter
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I would throw up a theory here... a poor ground strap contact. You started the engine and the starter moved a bit, caused the ground point to fail briefly, which effectively turned the car off. Needles moved as they would when turning car on/off.

If it starts happening again, go round checking all the engine/bay ground point contacts.

The above is just a theory - could also be the battery
Will do but that doesn't explain the first issue....If i'm lucky and its a battery / ground issue good but i am worried because of the first thing.....
In any case the car didn't record any codes and the engine light is not turned on so that's good i guess.
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Will do but that doesn't explain the first issue....If i'm lucky and its a battery / ground issue good but i am worried because of the first thing.....
In any case the car didn't record any codes and the engine light is not turned on so that's good i guess.
Ohhh, my bad. I read the two things as happening at the same time

The second one then points more to the battery.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "misfire" issue. Neither of these things is the symptom of a misfire.

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Ohhh, my bad. I read the two things as happening at the same time

The second one then points more to the battery.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "misfire" issue. Neither of these things is the symptom of a misfire.
Well never had a missfire with the car so i don't even know what it does when that happens so since i turned the key and the engine didn't start i thought this could be it.
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When you encountered it the first time, you mentioned it lurched forward. It was in neutral (and/or clutch was depressed)? Am I understanding that right? I would be much more concerned about the clutch engaging while it shouldn't have.

Second instance seems clear. I'd still say battery connection or ground wire, as others pointed out. If the car lurched forward, it could have unsettled the battery or knocked something loose.
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Well never had a missfire with the car so i don't even know what it does when that happens so since i turned the key and the engine didn't start i thought this could be it.
Symptoms of misfire is usually rough running of the engine, especially on acceleration. Not failure/problems with starting.

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When you encountered it the first time, you mentioned it lurched forward. It was in neutral (and/or clutch was depressed)? Am I understanding that right? I would be much more concerned about the clutch engaging while it shouldn't have.

Second instance seems clear. I'd still say battery connection or ground wire, as others pointed out. If the car lurched forward, it could have unsettled the battery or knocked something loose.
Like i said i came back, parked the car, put it on neutral (natural), left it running for a couple of minutes and when i turned the key to the off possition the car made a sudden movement for like a split second similar to that movement it would do if i turned it on with a gear in the shifter.

As for the 2nd if it ever does it again i will take it to the dealership.
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Like i said i came back, parked the car, put it on neutral (natural), left it running for a couple of minutes and when i turned the key to the off possition the car made a sudden movement for like a split second similar to that movement it would do if i turned it on with a gear in the shifter.

As for the 2nd if it ever does it again i will take it to the dealership.
Thank you - just trying to make sure I understand. Did it jump forward (like if you suddenly let out the clutch in gear and stalled it) or sort of quickly but violently die?

Reason I'm asking is because if it was a forward motion, that's a driveline issue and probably unrelated. A weird shutdown would be electrical and could be related. If it happened when you're turning the key it could be an ignition switch issue, or still I would not count out a bad ground or connection somewhere as our cars are so sensitive to electrical changes.
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Thank you - just trying to make sure I understand. Did it jump forward (like if you suddenly let out the clutch in gear and stalled it) or sort of quickly but violently die?

Reason I'm asking is because if it was a forward motion, that's a driveline issue and probably unrelated. A weird shutdown would be electrical and could be related. If it happened when you're turning the key it could be an ignition switch issue, or still I would not count out a bad ground or connection somewhere as our cars are so sensitive to electrical changes.
It just felt like the engine shut down hard so it made a weird movement but no it didn't try to move forward or backwards.
Kinda reminded me of the trucks we had in the army which when you turned the ignition to turn them off their engines would make sudden movements.
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A bad motor mount? (I would expect symptoms should be consistent, though)
Does the engine noticeably rock when unloading it?
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A bad motor mount? (I would expect symptoms should be consistent, though)
Does the engine noticeably rock when unloading it?
Nah, only happened once so far and only when i turned it off.
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Well it seems it was a problem with the battery after all, or better yet with the poles.

The car wouldn't start yesterday so i pushed the cables attached to the poles and voila.....Don't know why that hapened however.
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Glad you found it Nikk. Our cars do strange things when they have battery related issues.


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