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Havent got the seat switch fixed yet

Is there a deadline on the recall? My passenger seat switch is still working and I am scared to death they will screw something up if I go in for the recall.

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Technically, the statute of limitations has already expired, since it is 10 (or maybe 8) years from the original date of sale of the vehicle.

A recall also effectively expires when there are no longer any repair parts available.

Do you expect to be less scared later?

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Technically, the statute of limitations has already expired, since it is 10 (or maybe 8) years from the original date of sale of the vehicle.

A recall also effectively expires when there are no longer any repair parts available.

Do you expect to be less scared later?
i am not familiar with a PASSENGER SEAT switch...what r we talking about? The only switch that I know of is the drivers' side height adjustment switch.
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I assumed he is referring to the airbag Passenger Presence Sensor. Not really a switch, but close enough.

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Probably talking about the presence sensor. That recall began in Feb. 2018 and is still in effect. Had my Sky in for service at a dealer and they did the recall without me mentioning or asking about it. I believe dealers must do the recall if the car is in for anything. Not sure when the recall expires.

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Not sure when the recall expires.
To the best of my knowledge, recalls do NOT expire.



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Whether my fear of malpractice will be more or less in the future is not the issue. My concern is that there is a risk of malpractice and right now the sensor is working. Will the piece of tape make it better or will the possible malpractice be worse than the cure that I dont need.....yet.

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Here is my take on it...

If your pad is working, the dealer will add the reinforced tape to the existing mat. This shouldn't cause any issues unless they mess up the lower seat cushion while removing/reinstalling it.

IF your current mat is damaged but still working, the tape doesn't guarantee that the mat will not fail in the future (technically even a new mat with the tape installed doesn't guarantee that) but it certainly won't make it fail sooner. Unfortunately there is no way to tell if your current working mat is damaged without destroying the mat.

I believe the recall repair has a 1 year warranty meaning if the sensor does fail within a year of you getting the tape added to your working mat, you'll get a replacement mat with the tap already added. EDIT: I just verified this is the case.

The only reason you might want to wait is to hope the sensor mat fails so you get a new mat with the tape rather than taping your current working (but possibly already damaged) mat. I was fortunate my working mat failed after the recall went into effect but before I had gone in for the fix.


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To the best of my knowledge, recalls do NOT expire.



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According to NHTSA, they do.

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The only reason you might want to wait is to hope the sensor mat fails so you get a new mat with the tape rather than taping your current working (but possibly already damaged) mat. I was fortunate my working mat failed after the recall went into effect but before I had gone in for the fix.
Yes, that is exactly why I was wondering how long. If I wait till it fails....and that is after they no longer have parts...I am SOL. Its a hard decision after hearing details of crap that happens in dealerships that no longer really care because the car is no longer sold.

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Interesting tidbit I found...Quarterly report filed by GM April 11, 2019 on how many cars have been serviced.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/201...7V061-0257.PDF

Just over a third apparently.

A recall doesn't have a specific expiration date but if the company goes out of business (GM in this case) or they run out of parts the recall is pretty much over. So there is an expiration, but not a specific date.

Really up to you but the options, as I see them, are do nothing and hope if/when it fails parts are still available for the recall, get the recall done now and if it fails in the next year that there are still parts available, or fix it now and if it breaks after a year deal with having to pay for a replacent if one is available.


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For what it's worth the repair didn't take any longer than it would for an oil change. Not a big deal. More time has been spilled on this thread then it takes to make the fix.
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For what it's worth the repair didn't take any longer than it would for an oil change. Not a big deal. More time has been spilled on this thread then it takes to make the fix.
Not sure how you can say that. I have read threads here of people who have had to make multiple trips, leave the car for 1/2 day or all day. First trip was to get it diagnosed and parts ordered 2nd was to get it fixed. Since some dealers are busy it's not like you drive up they order parts and you leave. You drop car off, wait an hour or so till they get to your car and diagnose then find they have to order the parts, order the parts then give you the car back and say come back in xx weeks when the parts are in.

An oil change, drive car on ramps climb under remove bolt swap filter, go inside have a beer, come out put bolt in, fill with oil drive off ramps, put ramps away.

One seems much more time consuming then the other, but its just me.

Oh and for the record have not gotten the seat fix done on our car either.

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Must be that my dealership (Wally Edgar) has me trained well??? I called about the recall over the phone, they ordered the part, contacted me when the part was in and then I scheduled a service time. Took my wife's Equinox over at the same time and had both the recall AND the oil change done. Both were done in about 45 minutes.
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Must be that my dealership (Wally Edgar) has me trained well??? I called about the recall over the phone, they ordered the part, contacted me when the part was in and then I scheduled a service time. Took my wife's Equinox over at the same time and had both the recall AND the oil change done. Both were done in about 45 minutes.
You have your dealership trained well. LOL

The procedure is supposed to be make an appointment, have the dealer determine if the seat sensor is operational or not. If it's operational, they just order the tape to put on the existing sensor. If it's not, they order a new sensor mat and the tape. You then come back when the parts arrive and generally it takes a couple hours to have the repair done.

Obviously the size of the dealership and it's service traffic will vary the repair time.


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