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post #16 of 48 (permalink) Old 08-02-2019, 06:55 PM
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Why not? My standard battery charger has recharged a completely dead battery. I would think they are still available.
Unless it's old I doubt it. Most/ all of the jump packs now have a "feature" that prevents you from hooking up backward and blowing the battery. The way it works it just checks for positive voltage, typically 3 - 5 volts. So if you have a truely dead (less than 5v battery) it wont charge. Now you need about 10V to start a car, so you can have a "dead" battery that wont start a car (less than 10v) But its not really DEAD.. you get a DEAD (less than 5V) battery, and the only way to jump it is one without the "protection circuitry"

But I am confused why you think (other than this pos to pos vs pos to neg) protection, that you think a jump back is safer than jumping it with cables.

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Unless it's old I doubt it. Most/ all of the jump packs now have a "feature" that prevents you from hooking up backward and blowing the battery. The way it works it just checks for positive voltage, typically 3 - 5 volts. So if you have a truely dead (less than 5v battery) it wont charge. Now you need about 10V to start a car, so you can have a "dead" battery that wont start a car (less than 10v) But its not really DEAD.. you get a DEAD (less than 5V) battery, and the only way to jump it is one without the "protection circuitry"

But I am confused why you think (other than this pos to pos vs pos to neg) protection, that you think a jump back is safer than jumping it with cables.
I have never even mentioned a jump pack. The only thing I have suggested is a simple battery charger. In this thread at least i think the only person that has mentioned a jump pack is you.

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Enough chatter...I have a headache...The SOLUTION. Just disconnect the terminals of the old battery. Take jumper cables from a new battery and attach to the SKYS terminal. Of course we need a KEY. I believe the KEY is the larger problem....ya think?

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Enough chatter...I have a headache...The SOLUTION. Just disconnect the terminals of the old battery. Take jumper cables from a new battery and attach to the SKYS terminal. Of course we need a KEY. I believe the KEY is the larger problem....ya think?
I think the key can be taken care of for less than $120 and a visit to the nearest GM dealer, so NO.

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I think the key can be taken care of for less than $120 and a visit to the nearest GM dealer, so NO.
I have to disagree here John..u can get a battery hooked up to the car...that is easier than getting a key from GM...even with proof of ownership....a battery u can buy in any store. Just going into the service area of a GM dealership is a PAIN.

And can u trust GM to provide the correct key the first time around. Here is another issue that may come up. We know how to code a blank key normally....but u will need a working battery to encode the computer chip in the blank. Do u believe GM will tell him how to do it?

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Why does this thread read like a "Gone in 60 Seconds" script???
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I think the key can be taken care of for less than $120 and a visit to the nearest GM dealer, so NO.
Average labor rate is $175/hr. They'll charge 1 hour labor and the key of $55...so about $230.

And don't get me started on push button start cars...they're over $900. When I was writing last year at the Chrysler store, we wanted $900+ for a push button start car for the fob and to be programmed. I think the key/remote was $595 and then 2 hours labor. Needless to say on every push button start car I've owned, I buy the "lost remote insurance"...
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Average labor rate is $175/hr. They'll charge 1 hour labor and the key of $55...so about $230........
I guess it must depend on the dealer. Mine charges a lot less than that for a key. The last one I bought was a key plus remote for $150, so I expect that our simple keys would be well under $100.

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Enough chatter...I have a headache...The SOLUTION. Just disconnect the terminals of the old battery. Take jumper cables from a new battery and attach to the SKYS terminal. Of course we need a KEY. I believe the KEY is the larger problem....ya think?
SO are you saying the KEY to this problem is a KEY ?
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SO are you saying the KEY to this problem is a KEY ?
You have KEYED-IN on the solution/problem...perhaps.
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SO are you saying the KEY to this problem is a KEY ?
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You have KEYED-IN on the solution/problem...perhaps.
I looked at his stats and he had a post in 2016 about a broken key. I hope this hasn't been sitting since then!


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Guys i sure hope you're not trying to help someone steal a Redline.........Even if it's just an abandoned one
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Guys i sure hope you're not trying to help someone steal a Redline.........Even if it's just an abandoned one
On Star is like Lo Jack...even if u do not have an account....big brother is watching you. The only way On Star cannot locate u...if u switch out your VCIM and not notified them of your change.
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On Star is like Lo Jack...even if u do not have an account....big brother is watching you. The only way On Star cannot locate u...if u switch out your VCIM and not notified them of your change.
If it's a Redline and not an Opel GT, sorry but this entire thread is fishy at best, in 2016 he posts about a broken key and now in 2019 again about a dead battery?

Almost seems like someone abandoned that car years ago and someone's looking for ways to get it.
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I would think making a key is a mechanical thing not an electric thing.
That was back in the olden days.
Now there is a chip in them which is programmed to the VIN.
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