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post #16 of 48 (permalink) Old 06-20-2015, 11:15 AM
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That is MY car as it sits right now. You can see the turbo heat shield hasn't moved from resting on the windshield seen in most of my previous pics LOL
You are looking at two different harnesses (one from the original sky and one from the ls2 motor) splayed open and in various stages of being sliced, routed, or deleted.
WOW!! What a job!

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It's been too freaking hot during the day to work on wiring and I can't see jack squat at night so I just slapped on a carb setup I had laying around jut so I could hear then damn thing fire up.

https://youtu.be/NDvTKgGG6uY

Sorry for the night time video.

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Looks like you're making good progress. Keep it up!

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Wow...I'd love to possess that skill and "know-how". My hat's off to you!
Will the carb clear the hood? Just askin'...

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Roust84 -

Will you be using the truck water pump + accessories or the Corvette's? AC?

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Thanks, it's just a mater of doing it.
The carb doesn't clear the hood. If one were to stick with a carbonated set up, a cowl hood or something like that would need to be used.



I ended up with a cts-v accessory drive set and a water pump off of a GMPP crate motor. It's like the CTS-V water pump in it sits close to the block but changes the inlets to the drivers side. GMPP call it a "corvette style" pump.
Water pump P/N NAL-19180610

I was given the wrong part number for the pump initially so I had to do some serious hunting to find the right number. I just so happened to run across a Mazda swap artical (after several days of poking around) that had the pump I wanted on the Crate motor they were using. They had the crate motor number so I had to do some calling around to summit and GMPP until I got the pump number used on the crate motor I saw.
Wouldn't you know, it works.

Keep in mind this pump will only work with the low profile accessory drives and you will need to match the appropriate crank pulley to it.

I HAVE the ac pump as it was included in the kit but I would have to remove that bump in the frame (passenger side) and I don't have the welding equipment or confidence to really dick with that as it is a major structural support . I will be wiring up the harness to have ac and I may come back to it down the road.

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Roust, I'll be starting my swap soon as well. It's much like yours it seems. This is my first ever engine swap. So, I've got a lot to learn and a lot of questions.

https://www.skyroadster.com/forums/f2...8-build-67865/

I have a question about the reluctor wheel. I understand it's a 24x in the LQ9 blocks. Do I need to change it to 58x?
Also, did you have to change your crank pulley? If so, what part number?

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The reluctor wheel that you need will be dictated by the tuning solution that you go with.
I went with Ken's solution @ carputing. Since that uses a E67 ecu I needed a 58X wheel and the front mounted 4x cam gear and sensor.

If you were just going to run a standalone harness and ECU and just give it power ground and ignition, then you can run what ever wheel is in the motor and use the computer that matches that.

Keep in mind, it's not a quick "change" to swap the reluctor wheel. They are pressed onto the crank so you would need to disassemble the bottom end and take the crank to a machine shop and have them press on the new wheel.

The balancer will have to match the accessory drive you use. I used the CTS-V acc drive so I had to chance the balancer to mach how the new belt path that sits closer to the block.
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The reluctor wheel that you need will be dictated by the tuning solution that you go with.
I went with Ken's solution @ carputing. Since that uses a E67 ecu I needed a 58X wheel and the front mounted 4x cam gear and sensor.

If you were just going to run a standalone harness and ECU and just give it power ground and ignition, then you can run what ever wheel is in the motor and use the computer that matches that.

Keep in mind, it's not a quick "change" to swap the reluctor wheel. They are pressed onto the crank so you would need to disassemble the bottom end and take the crank to a machine shop and have them press on the new wheel.

The balancer will have to match the accessory drive you use. I used the CTS-V acc drive so I had to chance the balancer to mach how the new belt path that sits closer to the block.
Ok. sounds like I'm sticking with the 24x reluctor then and its ECM with a standalone wiring harness. DDM Dave also stated by doing this I would need to run aftermarket gauges. I was looking at Glowshift gauges as they have a nice look and are relatively inexpensive. Autometer seems to be a favorite, but boy are they pricey (at least for the ones I want).

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yup, you will need gauges as there will be no way for your ECU to communicate with the BCM (which controls factory gauges)
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That big of an engine in these little cars seems like major over kill... Has anybody stuffed a smaller supercharged 3.8 that I think would be plenty of engine??

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A V6 yes but a built 4.3 would be better since they're a 5.7 V8 with the front two cylinders cut off and 4 bolt main where as the 3.8s I don't think are. Just a thought :blush:
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Just a thought :blush:
I'm getting too old to think like that anyway.....

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If you're going through the trouble of an engine swap why go with anything "small." I see the logic behind the 2jz and LS swaps. Anything smaller seems like a waste of time. My supercharged LE5 was plenty fast, but I ultimately decided the little extra $$$ for a V8 was worth the trouble.

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Well, good luck with that! I once had balls as big as truck tires as too, but after cheating the reaper a time or few, I like to keep all the wheels on the ground...

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