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- Run a Carfax or the like on the VIN, if you haven't already.
Yes, I have that.

It does show 3 owners rather than 2, but that may just be when the lien was paid off. Another thing to ask about.
Other than that, it looks fine.

Lots of good suggestions here...thanks everyone.

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What r u so worried about the GM tune...it allegedly increases the HP by 30. That is not significant. This is not a Camaro...GEESH! You will never ever be the Fast & Dumbest. What makes a car Fast...it is all in the mind of the other driver. When they view my car...they always ask how much HP...just put a number on the car. It works. No one races with me on the road
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What r u so worried about the GM tune...it allegedly increases the HP by 30. That is not significant. This is not a Camaro...GEESH! You will never ever be the Fast & Dumbest. What makes a car Fast...it is all in the mind of the other driver. When they view my car...they always ask how much HP...just put a number on the car. It works. No one races with me on the road
Well, if you had ever driven an RL without the tune AND driven an RL with the tune, you wouldn't say such things.

And as for why I am "worried" about it...it comes down to whether I will need to spend the $800 myself, or if it will already be included in the price of the car.
It will affect my bargaining position at least.

Why should I blatantly lie about something like a car's horsepower?
If you are lying about that...what else are you lying about?

Ahhh...yes...here's one you seem to use a lot - "Cars look better with old-fashioned tires and big numbers on the doors."

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Well, if you had ever driven an RL without the tune AND driven an RL with the tune, you wouldn't say such things.

And as for why I am "worried" about it...it comes down to whether I will need to spend the $800 myself, or if it will already be included in the price of the car.
It will affect my bargaining position at least.

Why should I blatantly lie about something like a car's horsepower?
If you are lying about that...what else are you lying about?

Ahhh...yes...here's one you seem to use a lot - "Cars look better with old-fashioned tires and big numbers on the doors."

I'm starting to remember why I left this forum for so long...
Yeah, I just went and found this forums Ignore option have not had to use that in some time.

IF the car doesn't have the GMPP tune, i would just do the Trifecta base tune, the same or better performance and lot less cost.

I am a GM Engineer.

I do not claim to be a GM representative, all of my postings are my own interpretation and personal opinions.

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What r u so worried about the GM tune...it allegedly increases the HP by 30. That is not significant. This is not a Camaro...GEESH! You will never ever be the Fast & Dumbest. What makes a car Fast...it is all in the mind of the other driver. When they view my car...they always ask how much HP...just put a number on the car. It works. No one races with me on the road
Throttle it back a bit MM...

There are a number of reasons why people would want to know if it has the GM tune or not. First, the seller may be trying to get more money for the car by saying it has something it doesn't have. Second, some folks feel better if a car has a tune from the Manufacturer rather than a 3rd party company. Third, some owners may want to get a tune and would be more attracted to one that has one but needs to know if it has what the owner says it has or not. Fourth, if the owner can't PROVE it has the tune (which the lack of the proper sensors is a pretty good way to question that fact) then the buyer has a good negotiating tool to leverage down the price.

And I wonder what you think is "significant". People put intakes on the car for 5 hp. People do exhausts for 10 hp. I'm not sure how a modification that increases the hp level by a factor of 3 is not significant. A 12% increase in power is significant. If it isn't, then how would you react to a 12% reduction of your income or a 12% increase in your federal taxes? I bet in those cases you'd find a 12% difference pretty significant.

Moving on. Let us know what you find out when you go look at the car mbeardsley.
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Yeah, I just went and found this forums Ignore option have not had to use that in some time.
Yep. Sadly it doesn't help with post quotes.

mbeardsley, hoping we get to see pictures of your new Sky today. It almost feels like 10 years ago

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Robo...go back to the members who installed the GM tune. I cannot remember anyone who was impressed. And while 12% may seem like alike to many...it certainly doesn't change my style of living...just saying. A poor man is poor plus or minus 12%.

Remember the increase of 5 HP if u install a CAI....don't think so. Just more noise.
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Remember the increase of 5 HP if u install a CAI....don't think so. Just more noise.
Never said those were people with Kappas. For other cars adding a CAI does make power, but not in our cars. Yet, people still do it to add just 5 hp to those cars.

Enough though. Good luck with your potential purchase sir.


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Bought the car yesterday.

It has some minor issues, but overall is in great shape. Car is at the dealership now getting some of those items looked at.

Paid $14,600. Might have overpaid a bit, but the chances of me finding another red on red close by in good condition are pretty close to zero.

It does NOT have any tune. Seller was obviously confused...dealership told him it had been "updated" to the latest software - he thought that meant it had been "upgraded". I will probably add the GMPP tune to it in a while.

Has a pretty annoying rattle/squeak somewhere in driver's door - hope the dealer can find it.

Runs nice and strong. Drove top down almost 5 hours at 80mph to get it home. Of course, I'm a little sunburned now, but still have a big permagrin!

Will post pictures when I get it back from the dealership and all cleaned up.

Thanks to all who provided help/info, and special thanks to ChopTop for finding it in the first place.
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Great news! Glad to hear they're checking it out and getting is squared away!


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Congrats! Hope it's a good one.


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Funny event on the way home with the car yesterday...

I had been looking at a maroon Merc-Benz SLK-350 here in case the Sky didn't pan out.

Stopped for gas about an hour after buying the car. Pulled into the station right next to a maroon SLK. A 10 year old kid comes over saying "wow...cool car...what is it?".

The kid ignored the guy with the SLK.

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congrats on your new purchase.have the dealer check for a broken weld on the door striker.i had one done and took away a horrible noise that was there and driving me crazy.
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Bought the car yesterday.
You remember the old rule: You are obliged to post pictures when you pick up your Sky!

The software update could be the one that fixes the "I won't talk to the TPMS system or allow the key fobs to work if the battery is allowed to run all the way down" problem. Had that done on my last year or the year before.
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