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2008 Saturn sky redline TSB

Can someone point me to the TSB that addresses the update of the ECU so that the battery does not die so quickly if you are trying to do the ignition relearn. I am locked out and my battery does not stay charged long enough to complete the 3 10 minute sessions.
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I haven't heard about that TSB. Why don't you just put a charger on the battery?

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I haven't heard about that TSB. Why don't you just put a charger on the battery?
l did but it died too.... I will try again.
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You may need a new battery, a new charger, or both. A good battery should keep the car powered for 30 minutes by itself, let alone with a charger attached.

I would charge the battery at 2 amps for at least a full day, then keep the charger connected while you do whatever it is you are doing.

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Ok, tsk. Here is part of what I was asking about. You have to pay to get more info. Check out 08153 on April 08. http://www.alldatadiy.com/TSB/53/085327kd.html

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Are you having a problem? I have not found any other reference to that TSB.

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... recently had the dealer replace the bcm. Bought the tech2 right after because the dealer was nickel and diming me.

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I see a low voltage and a communication loss that could have been caused by the low voltage, but both now show passed.
Did those occur before you ran the battery down?
The active one is an open or short circuit to the trunk latch, and that would seem to be a wiring or connector problem.
None of those look like you need a software update.

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Ok, I will work on it this weekend and give an update.
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Rob the Elder wrote this recently in another thread "Some 08 cars have experienced issues when the battery goes dead. They loose the remote keyless entry and a couple of other functions. If my memory is not totally shot, a software update can fix this problem. Others with more knowledge will let us know.

Some cars, a small number of instances, have experienced issues with the BCM / ECM functioning properly after jumping them at the battery. They report that dealer fixes are required when this happens. Apparently if you use the positive lug on the under hood fuse box it avoids the potential for this issue. Stated another way, you might jump the car ten times at the battery and on the 11th try wipe the code in the ECM or BCM.

The automatic needs power to activate the electrical key interlock which is probably why your key is stuck in the ignition. If its not an automatic, then look at the ignition lock failure. If you have not had the ignition recall done on your car, the tumblers can fall out of the lock and prevent turning the ignition or removing the key.

If the battery is showing 13 volts and you are not getting any function out of the car, look at the terminals and the ground. If the volts are there but not driving the car then there has to be an issue with connectivity somewhere".

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The issue with the '08s is with the RKE and TPMS functions. After a total power loss (eg: Disconnecting the battery) the RKE and TPMS will not work. There is a TSB about this that details a reprogramming to eliminate the problem.

The problems I have heard of after jump-starting appear to be isolated to the RL/GXP and are likely caused by using the wrong terminal on the Underhood Fuse Block (UFB) and either blowing the fuse to the cooling fan or burning out part of the UFB. The proper jumping procedure is to use the terminal under the red cap for the positive cable and the metal tab on the side of the engine for the negative. I have not heard of any problems connecting directly to the battery except for the difficulty in getting to it and the potential of shorting a cable to ground. In any case, I don't know how connecting directly to the battery could damage the BCM or ECM.

Check for battery voltage at the UFB terminal. If it is 12+V try to start the car and check it while starting. It should only drop about 1 V. More of a drop means a bad cable, connector, or battery. You can repeat the test at the battery to eliminate cables and connectors You can check the ground cables and connectors by measuring voltage between the negative battery terminal and the ground strap on the side of the engine. You should never read more than 1 V from one to the other, even when starting.

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