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Badge Opel to Badge Saturn

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I found a post by John D April 2006 "The Ultimate Opel GT Grille Installation Thread Grid", very interesting...but I want to do the opposite: Opel -> Saturn.

I bought on ebay the Grill-Finish sky bumper (GMpartscenter) 15897022 and the front bumper Upper Grid 10364293 (partscenterplus).

Happy, I received both on the same day.

Gooo!! I reread post and surprise the plastic rods do not have a thread as on the pictures...... so it will be not possible to fix the four nuts on silver plastic pins behind the badge.


Result of investigation, I have a reference engraved on the object sent 15902754.

Seller wrote me that is self tapping nut that cuts it's own threads.

Better to be sure before to start. Is it ?

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Do you have that original thread link handy? I have an Opel badge on the grill, and would love to also change the waterfall and rear bumper ones as well.
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When I changed over to the Opel grill I thought the same thing. The old nuts cut new threads onto the mounting pins. I actually threaded them on before I put the grill in so it would be easier to install. I first tried to cut the thread with the piece in place but if was too difficult. Also the pins are fairly fragile so be careful you don't break them off.
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Do you have that original thread link handy? I have an Opel badge on the grill, and would love to also change the waterfall and rear bumper ones as well.
If I understood good... https://www.skyroadster.com/forums/f...-thread-23984/
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(...) Also the pins are fairly fragile so be careful you don't break them off.
I think it's going to not be easy to unscrew them, a brief attempt, almost no access or I am not awake (08.00 PM here)




Thank you very much for the carefuly advice during disassembly. So I will try, doesn't mean to be succesfull
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When I disassembled the original, I broke one of the pins off. It wasn't a huge deal to me since I was replacing it. For some reason when I was removing the original, I had it in my mind that the pins were a die-cast metal and much sturdier. Just take your time and be careful.
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Opel GT did not have a waterfall logo, Saturn does. For it to be correct you will need to replace the waterfall. I may have one if you want to go that way. It is a pain in the butt to replace. You will also need to modify the rear of the car as the Opel does not have the raised area that the Saturn logo requires. Just info to consider.
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Opel GT did not have a waterfall logo, Saturn does. For it to be correct you will need to replace the waterfall. I may have one if you want to go that way. It is a pain in the butt to replace. You will also need to modify the rear of the car as the Opel does not have the raised area that the Saturn logo requires. Just info to consider.
Aside from the other interior changes...I have never seen anyone install the wheel well lights.
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Opel GT did not have a waterfall logo, Saturn does. For it to be correct you will need to replace the waterfall. I may have one if you want to go that way. It is a pain in the butt to replace. You will also need to modify the rear of the car as the Opel does not have the raised area that the Saturn logo requires. Just info to consider.
Weeeellll, not the whole waterfall. Just that panel. I actually replaced mine (with the Pontiac arrow) with a silver plain Opel one from Source1. You just need to break off the melted ends of the studs on the little panel, then use short screws (and pilot holes) on the replacement.

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Correct TS. But it does require tearing the whole back side out of the car, then detaching the colored/painted part, and as stated putting screws in it. I have my old one laying around and it seemed it had an outline of the Saturn badge, but could be wrong. I don't remember the Mallett having an outline for the arrow head. I put the car in storage and hardly ever looked at it once it was done. Really wished it had an automatic in it. I most likely would not have sold it. On that note, we seem to be moving towards and LS7 going into the donor car for the wife's daily driver. Almost finished with it and got it smogged yesterday. Bluestone with black interior and black top, looks a thousand percent better. Still not a fan, but a massive improvement.

Mike that requires changing the front bumper to do it right or a lot of body work. I did locate an inner fender for the drive side that went with the Opel, but was way too much money. Looked for the rear and front bumper, but again the prices were not that bad, but the shipping killed you.

I just shaved the rear bumper to fit the Opel logo, but did not like the looks of it on the car so never put the rear Opel blitz on. I still have it. It is different than a flat one. A lot of angles coming together to fit where it goes.
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Weeeellll, not the whole waterfall. Just that panel. I actually replaced mine (with the Pontiac arrow) with a silver plain Opel one from Source1. You just need to break off the melted ends of the studs on the little panel, then use short screws (and pilot holes) on the replacement.
I'm going to look like a novice, that's right for this wonderful car, it is.

Can you be clearer about this waterfall, photos or a simple diagram would be welcome

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Can you be clearer about this waterfall, photos or a simple diagram would be welcome
This is the "waterfall" panel. The small painted piece top center is what we're talking about - this one is for a Pontiac (with the arrow head logo):



... and this is the (body color) painted piece for a Sky:


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[QUOTE=TomatoSoup;1302623]This is the "waterfall" panel. The small painted piece top center is what we're talking about - this one is for a Pontiac (with the arrow head logo):

I understood better, I misunterstood "waterfall" with a french translation it was certainly something behind the grille.

Thanks for this precious information.

It will be better to buy 4 new nuts , not surprise if they break off. I found them there GMPartsOutlet ( https://www.gmpartsoutlet.net/v-2007...and-components )

This webshop do not send international, a other one ask $ 45 just to send !
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... and this is the (body color) painted piece for a Sky:




So the Opel looks like this minus the emblem? If so, I'm IN!
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So the Opel looks like this minus the emblem? If so, I'm IN!
Here's an example:

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