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Sat for 3 months! Wont start

After setting for three months I can not charge the battery, cannot remove the key and cannot shift the tranny. Whats up with that?

The charging may be a circuit in the charger that shuts it off if the load is too high, but I am connected to the"+" terminal on the fuse box and on the tab on the side of the engine that is recommended by the manual.

AND, if the battery is a gonner, is there a replacement, however small, that will replace it so I dont have to remove the front fender to take it in and out?

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What are you using to charge the battery? Many of the more modern charges have a "safety" feature that wont let you hook it up backward. The way it works is it checks for a small positive voltage, the problem is if the battery is to dead the new chargers wont charge it. When I left mine a few winters ago, I had that issue. The way the car was parked I could not get jumper cables to it, So I was trying jump packs and chargers, finally found one that didn't have the feature. I know keep the car on a trickle charger over the winter.

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That is probably a the problem. I have an old brute force charger that I will try tonight. Why do manufacturers always try to out think us?

Any suggestions for a battery series that will go in and come out without removing the fender?

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I don't think there is such a thing, but there are far more experience folk here.. Hopefully one of them will be along. All the other issues you mention are all cause of the battery. I had all the same problems. I didn't replace my battery, It works all summer, and then in the fall when we park it I hook up the trickle charger.

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That seems to have been the problem. I went into the garage and got my NEWER charger that apparently doesnt have the dumb down circuitry and hooked it up and everything came to life.

I do not like what the world is coming to. We dumb down everything to an "average" intelligence and penalize those of us that are smart enough to put RED on Positive and BLACK on negative. Its true everywhere. They have even stopped teaching cursive writing in school because its too hard to learn......oh me, poor little dummies.

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Thanks for the info on the charger. Saved me. I have to get it inspected tomorrow so I can get registered before the 1st.

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I do not think a battery exists that you would want, or be able to use, and even if there was, making provision for it in the car would be more work than taking the fender off to replace the original battery. And you would have to do that anyway, because you don't want to leave a dead battery in the car.

How old is the battery? If it isn't too old you can likely save it by charging it slowly (2 amps is my recommendation) for a couple of days.

In the future, if you are not going to drive the car for more than a month you should connect a battery maintainer to keep it from draining. You could also disconnect it, but to me that is a less desirable option.

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I am thinking there might be one you can poke down endwise to the existing tray and rotate it to the proper position. It looks like the current one isnt realy that far away from fitting from the top.

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Might try one of those big Capacitors. They are smaller than batteries and have plenty of power with a tiny auxiliary battery tied to them.

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I went with this battery, extension cables, and velcro chinch strap. Can swap the battery in 5 minutes w/o removing the fender.

The battery lasts 3 years in the Florida heat. It's also way lighter, mount flat on the bottom of tray, or upright. I went flat.

Downside, doesn't have much reserve, so trickle charger would be advised if car won't run for more than a week.

Battery: (SLA, AGM, no spills)
https://www.amazon.com/ExpertPower-E.../dp/B00KC39BE6

Extension cables: (if laying battery flat)
https://www.amazon.com/Spartan-Power...dp/B075SJDBZC/

Strap: (run both perpendicular around battery and battery tray in x fashion)
https://www.amazon.com/AIRNIX-Webbin...dp/B07C77MFWF/

Note, batteries don't like running down under 10v, and it can cause the battery to fail or not fully charge next time.
If the car is not a daily driver, hook up a maintainer with auto charging/shutoff/float
1amp with shutoff like this model works for my motorcycle and mower as well with quick connects
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Maint...dp/B07CZ7KWP3/
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Perfect. I may add a supercapacitor booster pack to it. I also have a 1 amp solar charger on the roof of the garage.
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I have been told, but never had done it. Take the inner fender loose, remove the passenger side front wheel, loosen the brace and supposedly the battery can be pulled thru the area. I can not say I have seen it done, but have read that others have done it.
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Also can you jump it with another vehicle. If you can even if it won's start you will be able to remove the key and get it back in park. As long as the engine turns over. I have an NA that croaks all the time.
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One more thing . . .

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I have to get it inspected tomorrow so I can get registered before the 1st.
After replacing the battery you will have to drive the car about a hundred miles and register a number of ignition starts; otherwise it will fail the computer test at the state inspection station.
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I have done it both ways and prefer fender removal, but others have said the opposite. My impression is that Solstice owners tend to prefer the wheel well method because their fender is harder to realign, but clearly have no experience with that.

I really don't see the value in going to a special battery just to avoid having to remove a fender every 5-7 years, but we each have our own priorities.

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