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post #16 of 214 (permalink) Old 11-13-2018, 06:12 PM
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For regular cruising, you'd never know the difference between these two except the RE-71Rs would be more expensive and wear out sooner.
Yeah, I think that's the important part. You'd not get the real advantages of the PSS unless you at least sometimes drove them very hard (which I do, but probably not as often as you young whippersnappers!). Waste of time having them on a garage queen. OTOH, I've thought of using the Bridgestones - I'm only putting 2-3,000 miles per year on the Solstice as I drive other cars in the summer, so I might actually wear the 71Rs out about the time they aged out anyway. Thinking about it, but haven't done it, and probably won't, as the PSS have significantly better wet numbers and I live in a rain zone.

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For regular cruising, ...
Yeah, I think that's the important part. You'd not get the real advantages of the PSS....
How about the Pilot HX? I'm looking to not replace tires often, cruise, still be safe if an unexpected rain hits, and noise/comfort. I don't "roadster"... been there, done that. It's sit back and enjoy time.

I don't want tires that track the road a lot.

The 50,000 mile warranty is appealing... what think ye?
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How about the Pilot HX?
Buyer reviews reported toTire Rack look lukewarm.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...=Pilot+HX+MXM4

Maybe take a look and see if TR has a comparison in that tire class (Grand touring all season)

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Tire Rack reviews are helpful. That's the route I'd go too since you won't find a lot of tire reviews elsewhere for "normal" tires. High performance you'd find them everywhere.


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I have the MXV4 and really like them as they are quiet, comfortable, and have excellent grip wet and dry. They have, unfortunately, been discontinued in our size, but their replacement, the Premier A/S gets good reviews.
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I have the MXV4 and really like them as they are quiet, comfortable, and have excellent grip wet and dry. They have, unfortunately, been discontinued in our size, but their replacement...
Here's what I found...

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They have, unfortunately, been discontinued in our size, but their replacement, the Premier A/S gets good reviews.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

The reviews on Tire Rack were all about how they became bald after 20 to 40k for a 60k warranty tire... soooo... what about the Eagle F1's?

I also like the look where the tire bulges out from the rim a bit giving it that slightly rounded look as opposed to the flat sidewall where the rim lip looks to be poking out.


I included pictures of some other tires I was looking into...
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The reviews on Tire Rack were all about how they became bald after 20 to 40k for a 60k warranty tire... soooo... what about the Eagle F1's?

I also like the look where the tire bulges out from the rim a bit giving it that slightly rounded look as opposed to the flat sidewall where the rim lip looks to be poking out.


I included pictures of some other tires I was looking into...
If someone wore them out in 20-40k miles they either have a serious misalignment problem or they like to see tire smoke.

I had Eagle F1s on that car before the Michelins and really liked them for the first 15k miles or so. At that point they got loud, and they did show serious wear at 30k miles.

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The reviews on Tire Rack were all about how they became bald after 20 to 40k for a 60k warranty tire... soooo...

If someone wore them out in 20-40k miles they either have a serious misalignment problem or they like to see tire smoke.
I know, right? The thing is... for both those similar tires, the reviews were consistent... to the point I'd feel like a fool if after reading the mass consensus on that expensive tire and it's even more expensive sister tire (same technology), I expected anything different. The word "bald" came up frequently after just half the claimed 60k warranty. It's amazing how now with this internet technology and social interaction ability that we truly learn about the longer term use of anything... especially a newly brought out tire technology, that miles later, reveal whether or not the hype (to buy their product) really was a successful technology. After reading the mass consensus, I got the feeling that even the big name brand company didn't get this particular focused technology right.

But what do I know. Lol. I'm just some bloke reading other people's assessment. The issue is price. I COULD find out on my own... and laugh (cry?) to myself when I'm writing the same review... remembering me writing you, right now, posting these thoughts. Hahaha
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Here's what I found...

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I have experienced on a previous set of Michelin Prima MXV4's from Costco 58,771 mi. I did believe I should have gotten new tires prior to that, but was away from my normal Costco to make the purchase. Probably dodged a bullet, LOL.

When I purchased replacements on 9/2014, at 113,875 mi on my 2005 VW Jetta, I had to put on the Michelin Primier A/S as the MXV4's were no longer available. These new Primier A/S tires have 153,700 miles on them now, so I'm running at 39,825 miles. We were happy with the tires when new and are happy with them today. Rotation and re-balance is every 5K miles.

It does seem the 60K mile quote by Michelin is a bit of a stretch to ever get to those miles with safety in mind!
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Here's what I found...

I had to put on the Michelin Primier A/S as the MXV4's were no longer available. These new Primier A/S tires... We were happy with the tires when new and are happy with them today. Rotation and re-balance is every 5K miles.

It does seem the 60K mile quote by Michelin is a bit of a stretch to ever get to those miles with safety in mind!
I'm leaning toward the Primier A/S. I hear (pun) they are a quiet, comfortable, ride.

Plus, since I'm just a cruiser wanting a quiet, safe ride that doesn't track road grooves, I don't have many options.

Thank you for your excellent input. Everyone is so helpful.
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I have experienced on a previous set of Michelin Prima MXV4's from Costco...
Werec you in the Sky when buying from Costco? I'd like to get tires from them, the one in my city didn't know about "pucks".
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Were you in the Sky when buying from Costco? I'd like to get tires from them, the one in my city didn't know about "pucks".
John, my MXV4's and A/S Michelins were all on the Jetta and by Costco.

I discussed buying the Michelins from Costco when I first got my SKY, but it was probably more a case of I didn't feel comfortable with what they were telling me. So I went to Discount Tire and had a good discussion with the manager. He sounded quite credible and I felt he would do the job correctly and they did. I still have the discussion each time with the Discount Tire manager. And this last time I found there was a new manager, so the policy of walking around the car and pointing out the four jack points is always necessary. My local DT shop uses four jacks when they rotate and balance my tires.

For the SKY, I purchased BMW pucks that hold in the slot and are never removed, and that may not have come up in your discussions yet. However, the BMW pucks always attached work on my SKY, but they did fit well on my Solstice, so I have actual hockey pucks in the trunk in case the shop needs to use them for any work on the Solstice.

I'm not looking for tires for either of my Kappas just now. But I may give Costco another discussion about it and see what their prices are on the next round when it comes. Both DT and Costco are layed out for you to watch from the waiting area behind the glass.
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For the SKY, I purchased BMW pucks that hold in the slot and are never removed, and that may not have come up in your discussions yet. However, the BMW pucks always attached work on my SKY, but they did fit well on my Solstice, so I have actual hockey pucks in the trunk in case the shop needs to use them for any work on the Solstice.
I really like Discount Tires with their balance/rotation plan. But the manager didn't know about pucks. By your paragraph above, I understand that BMW pucks worked on your Sky, and not the Solstice. How did you permanently attach the Pucks to the Sky? Is it like an insertion thing, or like double tape fastened. Those pucks might be my best bet and Discount Tire.

Did you ask DT to hand torque your lugs? Someone mentioned that the air gun torque caused some lugs to snap when they tried taking them off.

If I knew what jacks to get, what pucks to get, what stands to get, and how to safely Jack all corners of the Sky without twisting the seams... I'd do it myself to save the headache of it all, as someone already mentioned.
But I might do more damage than a shop doing one tire at a time. Lol. Just the GMC Buick dealer's one time proper lift caused a dash creak-rattle that I hope works itself out... lol. I'd probably cause a chorus of new sounds. Hahaha.

Here's a picture of a tire when money is no object. I think I'll go with Michelin though.
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