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post #16 of 35 (permalink) Old 08-27-2017, 02:46 PM
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Size: 245/45ZR18 96W
UTQG: 300 AA A

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Installed early summer and very happy with performance.
Very quiet and sticky on cornering.
For the money, you cannot go wrong...
Nice looking tire! Incredible price
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Just installed P ZERO ALL SEASON PLUS - SIZE: 245/45R18
The review on tirerack was accurate and worth watching the vid. I'm so impressed that there is no road noise and extremely comfortable. The car has been transformed but to be fair this is the first replacement of the originals. Super grippy!
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Even at tire rack they are still at $175 ea BEFORE shipping and mounting,

I hope they come with a babe and a 6 pack
When it comes to these kinds of tires, you get what you pay for. I run Potenza RE-71Rs which are THE autocross tire to have. They are intcreadibly grippy and some of the fastest tires on course. The P Zeros are a fine choice as well and generally just below the Potenzas.

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Riken Raptor Z

RIKEN by Michelin
RAPTOR ZRUltra High Performance Summer

Size: 245/45ZR18 96W
UTQG: 300 AA A

Qty:
Per Tire: $84.91

Installed early summer and very happy with performance.
Very quiet and sticky on cornering.
For the money, you cannot go wrong...
These are new to market and I would love to hear how they wear. Money wise they're great and I would consider them for daily drivers if they wear 20k miles or so. I know they are still not quite at the level of the more expensive name brands when it comes to outright wet and dry performance if you ask the most out of your tires but for the money if they wear right and have no bad traits for long term use I'd have a set for daily driving.
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Are you going to use the tires for summer driving. Meaning hot burning sun, very little rain?

I have been looking at the Autocross forums on tires used, you know what is missing? Michelin Super Sports are not listed in the top ten on any list I have found. Nor are the new edition ones.

I have said it before, really isn't a comparison between the RE71R' and the Pilot SS for summer performance tires. It really isn't even close. If you want traction and grip the Bridgestones will give you all you can demand, now wear , I really can not comment on that at this point. I know Robo has put quite a few miles on his, plus the races he attends, and I know he is not easy on his stuff. So his comments on mileage should be taken lightly. He drives harder than most of us I think.


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While you can run slalom tires on the street (and it is legal to do so), the cost is that they wear considerably more quickly. Wear index on the PSS is 300 and on the RE71R, 200.

No street tire with decent wear qualities will win solo events nor will they appear in comparison tests of that class of tire. You are comparing apples and oranges. The correct comparison is between the RE71R and the Michelin Sport Cup 2, also a streetable tire that will wear more quickly.

How well the Sport Cup 2 does or doesn't do against the Bridgestone in solo competition has no bearing on the PSS for street work. The Sport Cup 2 is really not well suited to street use and don't warm up quickly - probably very difficult on the street in cooler climates. Can't comment on that aspect of the Bridgestones.

PS - getting tires for old cars is even worse than for modern models. In vintage racing we used to use racing recaps - they banned them. We went to Goodrich Comp TA R1 (perhaps the first race tirre legal on the street?) but they discontinued them. Today the hot tire is Nitto NT01 (wear index = 100) described as DOT compliant. Narrowest size for my cars are 205/50ZR15 which can be fitted on my rim size - just. Life sucks for some old sports car owners - sizes like those for Lamborghini Countach (a guy I know runs one) of 345x35ZR-15 were not made again until quite recently.

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Agree with wspohn here. If grip in warm dry weather is your only yardstick for tire selection, then currently the RE-71Rs are the ticket. I ran them for a year to see how they would do and after about 20K miles, they're done. I'm on the wear bars but they are not bald. My cheap Chinese tires didn't last this long. They were bald at this point.

The PSS and their replacement are meant to be a longer lasting higher performance tire. Not quite the Autocross demon the RE-71R is but pretty close and better suited for everyday use. They were tested against the RE-71Rs and found to be just behind them in performance...but just barely. Enough to matter on the track, probably not enough to matter on the street with some exceptions.

I ran the RE-71Rs daily because I could only afford one set of tires at the time. (Skersfan has helped changed that with a set of Goodyear Eagles he had laying around. Thank you sir.) This season I'll have a set of RE-71Rs dedicated to race days and the Eagles will be my dailies. Yes, I know, people hate the Eagles but they're still better than my cheap Chinese tires I had. LOL


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OP requested information on just summer tires. So I asked, baking sun, little rain.

Mine are lasting fine I think. I expect to get 25-30K out of them, but according to Robo, when they start to wear, they do wear at a quicker pace. He got 20K out of his.

No one that I remember has listed wear index was set. Just what was the best summer tire. I drive them back to back on occasion and it is not close, not even remotely close. I also drove them from SoCal to Gunnison, Colorado in a monsoon situation. I was terribly worried about the wet weather action of the tire. I never had a problem, no hydro planning. And hooked up great

After reading the article, the guy said they were better than any all season tire he had driven in the rain. These are fantastic tires, they cost about as much as the Michelins but for summer driving, really much better. They work well at warm temperatures, but get below 50, they become hard and rough. I seldom have to drive in that kind of weather so they are perfect for me.

I put a set of these on the Mallett, larger than stock and they have calmed the beast down considerably. I honestly would not drive it with the PSS on it.

These will make you feel safer in the car, but they will also make you test yourself and your car's limits. You get the feeling there isn't a corner you can not fly thru. Maybe not so good idea all the time.

I will not buy anything else until it is proven that something is better or comparative.
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OP here. Cant say baking sun, little rain all year. SW Florida so showers in summer (not driving car much during showers) and warm weather many months. No prolonged cold weather and car is no daily driver (nice weather only!). The Indy 500 we went with has good wet traction just in case...

Ill report back throughout the year on performance.

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HORNET1, is that tire combination on stock wheels? I had thought about going wider in the rear but wasn't sure of clearance issues.
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How do you like the BF Goodrich g-Force Comp 2 tires>
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How do you like the BF Goodrich g-Force Comp 2 tires>
A very good second choice - not as good as the PSS but very good on their own. Would satisfy 95% of drivers out there. I put them on my Z4MC.
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Still like my RE-11ís but donít race, and they are out of production.
From outside reviews RE-71Rís are the ticket for racing, but the 11ís are close, last longer, and better in the cold and rain than I expected. They are a bit heavy. Happy I got them before discontinued.
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Looks like a great tire and a great price. Today I had my MPSS installed and took the car for a drive. I was extremely impressed. The ride was smooth and quiet and in the turns the car felt like it was on rails.
I had a set of BF Goodrich G-Force Comp-2-AS installed on mine today.
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You might not be around any more, but... was the rear lower than the front with that config?
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You might not be around any more, but... was the rear lower than the front with that config?
Front: 245x0.45=110.25
Rear: 275x0.40=110.00

So the front would be 0.25mm higher than the rear. Probably not enough to really bother most people.

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You might not be around any more, but... was the rear lower than the front with that config?
Front: 245x0.45=110.25
Rear: 275x0.40=110.00

So the front would be 0.25mm higher than the rear. Probably not enough to really bother most people.
Thank you. I wonder if the aesthetic composed look makes it all worth while? Do you get more road rash behind the rear wheels?
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In my opinion staggered tires are not worth messing with, but aesthetics are not my primary concern.
>Because you can't rotate you will likely wear one pair out faster than the other. I prefer to change out a complete set together.
>Depending on the tire you can half-rotate by reversing them on the wheels, but it is a lot of effort and only partially successful.
>You need two spares, assuming that you want to keep a spare in the garage.

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