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|08-20-2018 02:13 AM|
Also the person you're calling moron is a GM engineer who worked on the Kappa project...and has a point.
Let's say there are dozens of posts...even 5 dozen (which there aren't that many)...You're talking 60 cars out of 90,000, and we'll round it up to 100...you're talking 0.1% of production. Having researched all the complaints on the NHTSA's website from the start of production until Feb 2016 I know the number of complaints for transmission issues is FAR less than the number for the Passenger Presence Sensor it is unreasonable to believe the problem was as large in scale as that one.
Therefore, DavHamm makes a very valid point. When compared to production numbers and issues that have warranted a recall, the number of transmission "failures" is relatively small. As Davhamm pointed out (and is often the case with most consumers) unless you have analyzed each and every one of those threads to determine whether or not the transmission was the root of the failure like Davhamm did with the five threads presented, you cannot accurately say that all those posts are genuine transmission failures.
|08-18-2018 10:15 PM|
I wonder if a couple of those owners are within the same year because it wa totaled then sold at auction to another to another
Would be nice to see the report
|08-18-2018 09:53 PM|
Originally Posted by ChrisF12000 View Post
Still surprised that these POC cars have such a following, and even more surprised that so many forum members still continue to own them and drive them, even though apparently every thing fails at much higher rates than other vehicles.
|08-17-2018 11:44 PM|
|MeanYellow||There are dozens of posts like those, moron.|
|08-17-2018 04:44 PM|
Assuming you have an auto. Its due to one of the following:Which are not the transmission,
Another one was a bad MAF again not the transmission.
and the last post was the TCM and MAF, trans was fine but hey I'll give you the TCM as a trans issue.
So of the 5 posts you linked to and only 2 had a bad transmission. So over 10 years you come up with 1 bad trans (1 bad TCM) ? I am sure there are others, but the trans on this car is not a big failure issue.
|08-17-2018 03:30 PM|
Originally Posted by Sky_Pilot View Post
|08-17-2018 03:07 PM|
Originally Posted by marlboromike View Post
|08-17-2018 02:30 PM|
Originally Posted by davhamm View Post
|08-17-2018 01:38 PM|
Originally Posted by JohnWR View Post
You can't tell if something is really a problem based on a handful of complaints but it is easy to jump to that conclusion. In the case of the PPS sensor, it still wasn't a huge number of cars but the fact that the CTS had the recall done yet had a lower percentage of cars produced exhibit the problem is what convinced me (and apparently NHTSA and GM) that there were enough failures to warrant a recall.
Honestly, my GMC truck has had more issues than my Sky (well, the issues I wasn't a huge contributor to at least) yet mechanically it is still very reliable. Lights are out in the dash, the door control panels are literally falling off, I had my gauges stop registering (a very common problem in these older trucks actually), and a bad water pump, radiator, power steering box/pump, and failed alternator. At 225K miles and 14 years though, I'm good with just that.
Things don't last forever and our cars are hitting that 10 year mark. The mileage may be low, but NOT using a car can create as many technical problems as using it a lot. People also forget that. All things considered, I don't think our cars experience any more nor any less problems than any other car out there. I had people tell me not to turbo an engine with 70K miles on it. It's not going to last. I'm at 128K now and the engine is STILL strong as the day I put the turbo on even though I have almost doubled the mileage.
|08-16-2018 07:37 PM|
Originally Posted by JohnWR View Post
I really wonder, MM how many years have you had your car, how many miles, what all have you had to fix?
|08-16-2018 07:35 PM|
Now the financing and paying off in a year, guess I would need to know his plan, maybe he has a great low interest loan and an investment that pays him better than the loan.
Who knows what's up with his Grand Prix.
Not a lot of info to make any kind of call on.
|08-16-2018 07:16 PM|
I think these cars are as reliable as 05-10 model year vehicles.
|08-16-2018 05:49 PM|
Nothing like EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING
|08-16-2018 05:12 PM|
The components and modules came from the GM parts bin, and are no more likely to fail in Kappas than in any of the rest of the models that they are used in.
Door handles may be a legitimate gripe, but are hardly a reason to condemn the cars as undependable.
Ditto with the Airbag PPS, especially since Robotech's push for a recall has been successful.
We get an inflated sense of problems because the enthusiast owners that have been on this forum report any problem or concern.
Considering that forum participation represents a handful (3 to 4%) of total vehicles produced, any data collected here is likely to be wildly skewed.
I know that many owners have experienced only minor problems, or none at all, so the actual failure rate may be 1 to 2%, or even less, of the total production.
I have two Kappas with a combined 180k miles that have had one failed solenoid and one failed PPS between them, and I don't consider either of those problems to be extraordinary especially since the PPS failure was in a car that had been wrecked.
|08-16-2018 02:58 PM|
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